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I have always used straight from the pot i always seem to get good results
I must admit Peter even me being a professional painter by trade I thin my paint , I must admit from what I've seen you do get a good surface , the only time I don't thin is to get a surface I want


Have you ever thought of becoming a painter :)
 
Trying new things and techniques is great, but I think the main point is if you have found something that works and gets the results that you're happy with...why change.


Si:)
 
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Trying new things and techniques is great, but I think the main point is if you have found something that works and gets the results that you're happy with...why change.
Si:)
That's spot on mate it's a personal choice there's no right or wrong way neither is argument that you can't do a great model with a brush :)
 
Well I think I'm right that all manufacturers recommend thinning all paint before use.


Whatever results someone gets from using unthinned paint, the finish will always be better with 2 or 3 thinned coats than one ' neat ' coat.
 
I would recommend you thin the paint but that's just my opinion, if someone is happy doing what they do then that's the argument over ,


From what I can tell about modellers is if they read or are told something then its gospel and anyone who disagrees is wrong and therefore don't know what the're doing .


I challenge everything and always come up with a viable solution using either a different method or material but some can't or won't accept it


I say challenge everything and you will see that was is classed as fact is merely an opinion in the end :)
 
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I would recommend you thin the paint but that's just my opinion, if someone is happy doing what they do then that's the argument over ,
From what I can tell about modellers is if they read or are told something then its gospel and anyone who disagrees is wrong and therefore don't know what the're doing .


I challenge everything and always come up with a viable solution using either a different method or material but some can't or won't accept it


I say challenge everything and you will see that was is classed as fact is merely an opinion in the end :)
Well, actually Alan the answers no!


If someone does something recommended by both the manufacturer & other users, surely they're not wrong?


In this case, yes you can used unthinned paint. Will it provide as good a finish as multiple thinned coats? No, of course it won't - that's a fact! Not an " opinion ", but a simple fact.


This isn't the 1st time that you seem to get on my case about simple procedures - do you have a problem with what I say?
 
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Well, actually Alan the answers no!
If someone does something recommended by both the manufacturer & other users, surely they're not wrong?


In this case, yes you can used unthinned paint. Will it provide as good a finish as multiple thinned coats? No, of course it won't - that's a fact! Not an " opinion ", but a simple fact.


This isn't the 1st time that you seem to get on my case about simple procedures - do you have a problem with what I say?
Please i think we are wandering from the subject now:mad::eek:
 
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Well, actually Alan the answers no!
If someone does something recommended by both the manufacturer & other users, surely they're not wrong?


In this case, yes you can used unthinned paint. Will it provide as good a finish as multiple thinned coats? No, of course it won't - that's a fact! Not an " opinion ", but a simple fact.


This isn't the 1st time that you seem to get on my case about simple procedures - do you have a problem with what I say?
No mate it's an opinion, I would recommend it but that's just my opinion because it's what works for me , manufacturers can't be trusted to give the facts.


So are you saying that peters builds are not very good because he uses it straight from the pot ?


I think you should be a bit more open minded mate and say that's not what I would do but it's your choice , life would be so much easier and people would get along better if people didn't say something was wrong because they were told it or read it in a book
 
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No mate it's an opinion, I would recommend it but that's just my opinion because it's what works for me , manufacturers can't be trusted to give the facts.
So are you saying that peters builds are not very good because he uses it straight from the pot ?


I think you should be a bit more open minded mate and say that's not what I would do but it's your choice , life would be so much easier and people would get along better if people didn't say something was wrong because they were told it or read it in a book
Jesus Alan, can you hear yourself?


Firstly, I didn't say it was wrong, just that it was RECOMMENDED to be used in such a manner.


Secondly, you can't trust the manufacturers to give the facts?? What utter RUBBISH!!


Thirdly, open minded?? What the heck do you know about me & what gives you the right to say that? If I follow a tried & trusted method which happens to be what the vast majority also do, that's common sense, not some half arsed form of brain washing!


Let's see you put your money where your mouth is then!


If all " facts " are actually opinions, no doubt the fact that we need oxygen to survive is, in your book, just an " opinion " - so test it out!
 
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I would recommend you thin the paint but that's just my opinion, if someone is happy doing what they do then that's the argument over ,
From what I can tell about modellers is if they read or are told something then its gospel and anyone who disagrees is wrong and therefore don't know what the're doing .


I challenge everything and always come up with a viable solution using either a different method or material but some can't or won't accept it


I say challenge everything and you will see that was is classed as fact is merely an opinion in the end :)
Well said, think you missed your calling- they could use you in Parliament, maybe then you chaps wouldn't be so bad off:D But I digress... most of us are codgers with age old habits and no one likes change. I've looked at that AB at least a half dozen times {got all the bells and whistles} but try as I might I just can't see myself using it. I'm kinda happy with my results on certain projects so why put my self through the straino_O...besides, there's plenty of other stuff to drive me nuts around here..:confused:...........Jim:)
 
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Please can we have this thread locked as its getting out of hand or CAN WE KEEP IT WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE. SUBJECT PLEASE
 
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Please can we have this thread locked as its getting out of hand or CAN WE KEEP IT WITHIN THE BOUNDS OF THE. SUBJECT PLEASE
Sorry Peter, but I can't have such things said about me without the right to reply. However, I'm not going to say anything further on the matter.


In fact, I think I'll leave the forum altogether.
 
Wow, good morning. Must be the heat, you British types aren't used to it. Send some here, it's freezing.


And Peter, I think there are merits in using both the airbrush and a hairy stick. I detail with the brushes and do my main paint work with the airbrush. Once I started using it I never went back to covering a model with a brush. I have the utmost respect for anyone who can produce a great looking finish using brushes.
 
I don't care whether some of you thin, or don't thin your paint. You must be the judge of that. Whatever is best for you, is all that matters. But for gawd's sake don't use emulsion or masonry paint. :eek: Only joking :D :D:D
 
Peter I use an a/b mainly on planes tanks etc large surface areas. For small detailing and touch ups etc I use sable brushes.


I like to paint all my figures with a brush as they give better control with shadows and highlights etc.


Great results can come from both methods of painting it's all down to practice and experience.


Whatever makes the individual comfortable and happy is the most important element of painting each to their own as they say.


Although mainly airbrush user myself I do hold brush painters in high regard as getting some of the great results I've seen here and on the forum takes a high level of skill and patience.


kudos to both the airbrush and the brush as we would all still be finger painting without themView attachment 113676

how messy would that be
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