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Where the Commodore 128 stopped and had to be cooled down to continue working
And then you had to reload your programme using a tape cassette over half an hour or so only for it to stop working after 15 minutes again. Good times...
 
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Hi Laurie, I went from XP to 7 myself & it took a while to get used to the new format. There is no icon for show desktop just put cursor in bottom right hand corner.
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This is the bottom right of my screen. Hovering the mouse pointer over the grey/black rectangle at the extreme bottom right produces a text saying "Show Desktop" and the screen clears to show transparent outline borders of all windows presently open on the Desktop. I have Windows 7 Home Premium.


Having ditched my iMac after every day since new in 2011 having been irritated by several glitches every day, I now have a spanking new Windows 7 machine. Despite the fabled ease-of-use of the Mac I find the new machine very easy and pleasant to use. Since it arrived 3 1/2 weeks ago, not s single glitch. What a relief. The C: drive is a RAM drive (SSD or Solid State Drive) of 254 GB and the operating system and the Adobe graphics programs load and work very quickly. Am very pleased.


By the way, does anyone know how to get rid of wretched Skype (on my Task Bar). I didn't ask for it. It is in Computer > Local Disk (C:) > Program Files (x86). Would it be safe just to drag it to the Waste Bin?

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Would it be safe just to drag it to the Waste Bin?
That would delete only the shortcut Steve. If you want to delete the entire Skype programme/app or whatever you want to call it, for Windows 7 go to CONTROL PANEL, click PROGRAMS AND FEATURES. You will get a list of all installed programmes. Instructions to uninstall etc are at the top of the page. Enjoy.
 
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That would delete only the shortcut Steve. If you want to delete the entire Skype programme/app or whatever you want to call it, for Windows 7 go to CONTROL PANEL, click PROGRAMS AND FEATURES. You will get a list of all installed programmes. Instructions to uninstall etc are at the top of the page. Enjoy.
Good. It's gone! Thanks. I had forgotten that listings in Windows Explorer are just pointers to files. A very elegant way of keeping the hard drive in the background.
 
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Another one Joe the Oracle. The only real problem we had with this one. It did not work. SInclair eldest son, Commodore 64 me and Oracle eldest daughter. All of those on Christmas day. By God that seems a long way off.


Thanks Steve (where have you been ? ). Found a way to put the Show Desktop on the task bar with all the other stuff.


Laurie
 
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As someone who uses various computers (Mac and Windows) with different operating systems as well as other systems which are either Mac, Windows or Linux based, I really believe it's just a matter of what you are used to.
Neil's point about lack of support for old operating systems is important too.
So true. But, and its a big but, this has been exploited by microsoft, safe in the knowledge that the average punter knows no better, they've convinced the world that bloated, update-needy and vulnerable platforms are the only way! I never cease to be amazed at how such a poorly designed product is tolerated by its customers, it reminds me of the Austin Allegro. There, Ive said it!
 
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So true. But, and its a big but, this has been exploited by microsoft, safe in the knowledge that the average punter knows no better, they've convinced the world that bloated, update-needy and vulnerable platforms are the only way! I never cease to be amazed at how such a poorly designed product is tolerated by its customers, it reminds me of the Austin Allegro. There, Ive said it!
Problem is John where else do you go than Microsoft. Apple does not have all the programmes. My son is a Film editor and uses Apple but has Microsoft for all those things that Apple do not cater for.


The Agro. Worst car in the history of man. We had the automatic gearbox which virtually jumped out of its seating at every gear change.


Laurie
 
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Problem is John where else do you go than Microsoft. Apple does not have all the programmes. My son is a Film editor and uses Apple but has Microsoft for all those things that Apple do not cater for.
The Agro. Worst car in the history of man. We had the automatic gearbox which virtually jumped out of its seating at every gear change.


Laurie
What do you mean, in particular? I've been making music videos and animations for years, and taught video making and editing, and I'm not not sure that this is an issue any more. I have bootcamp on my MacBook Pro, for Sony Vegas, which used to be my weapon of choice, but Adobe CS6 (don't get me started on the CS Cloud!!) works beautifully on both platforms, as does MS Office. Having bootcamp on an Apple is a constant and immediate reminder of how much more time is wasted updating, scanning, and "Waiting for Windows to find a solution" (case in point here: Has anybody actually had a scenario where Windows actually found a solution?!:eek:). It needs a start from scratch re-write, and that's never going to happen, as desktop sales are slumping. Am still angry about Win ME, Vista and 8, I had to manage 3 PCs when my daughters were at university, and that was a nightmare!


And yes, I chose the Allegro example carefully!
 
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But the Hindustan Ambassador is, perhaps a better example, Morris Oxford from 1956, in production 'till last year...
 
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But the Hindustan Ambassador is, perhaps a better example, Morris Oxford from 1956, in production 'till last year...
Do I see a model coming on here John.


Laurie
 
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Ha ha, no! Went in one once in Mumbai, scared the bejayzus out of me! I'd use one as target practice, however... :D
 
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My point being it had hardly undergone any major upgrades to the nitty gritty - just as windows is just 3.1 with loads of bloat stuck onto it, the outcome is rather similar;)
 
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Thanks Steve (where have you been ? )


Laurie
Learning how to drive this, very new to me, Windows 7 comoputer, and transferring 300,000 MB of documents, movies, pictures and music from the iMac. A very time-consuming task.
 
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Learning how to drive this, very new to me, Windows 7 comoputer, and transferring 300,000 MB of documents, movies, pictures and music from the iMac. A very time-consuming task.
Yes Steve I was driven to 7 as a lot of new stuff such as navigational maps. All I got was not supported now for XP.


Why are you going to PC from Apple as a matter of interest ?


Laurie
 
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A Windows help item please. My daughters say that attachments I send them from this new computer appear already opened and at the bottom of the text, which they don't like. One is on XP and the other on a company system based on Windows 7.


--How do email attachments appear on your computers please?


--And what operating system do you have?


The normal, I think, is as an icon at the very top of the text.


Thanks.
 
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Just sent an email Steve to myself.


One with insert photo and another attach file which also was a photo. This is using MS7


Email received. Insert photo came up as a large photo. Attach file came up as a thumbnail.


As it left me. Photo large. Attach file just the file name.


Laurie
 
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Yes Steve I was driven to 7 as a lot of new stuff such as navigational maps. All I got was not supported now for XP.
Why are you going to PC from Apple as a matter of interest ?


Laurie
Well, I could go on for days! In a word or two, repeated glitches several times a day since I bought the iMac 4 years ago. Where do I start? The most annoying was the pointer of the multi-function "Magic Mouse" (wireless) disappearing, at times 5 times a day, during all the last 3 1/2 of the 4 years I have owned the iMac (bought new). To get it back I had to go to Preferences > Mouse and see a dialogue box saying "Looking for mouse", then after 5 seconds "Found Mouse". I then had to press Continue and after another couple of seconds I got "Mouse Found" and back it came. You might wonder how I managed to do all that without a mouse pointer. I had a track pad, like the ones on laptops but bigger and (of course) having more features. Many Mac owners don't have a track pad in which case they had to restart the whole computer. And that in my case would have had to be done 5 times a day!


Then the mouse pointer, when it was visible, would skitter across the screen to one side 10 times a week, scrolling the widow contents if it was a big one (as in InDesign) so that I lost my place on the screen. Also, when using Safari (Apple's excellent browser) or Firefox or Opera, when dragging Google maps around, the map would go crazy and zoom in and out and move sideways, making Streetview unusable. I took it to Apple's Genius Bar (!) in Solihull 3 times but they could not fix it. There are thousands of messages in the Apple Discussion Forum over the years but no solution found except in a few cases


My TomTom Satnav would not connect to TomTom's site to download maps (for which I had already paid) and TomTom, after some effort, could not find a problem despite it being Mac-ready. Emails sometimes arrived at peoples' computers with attachments unopenable. Windows which opened and listed files would sometimes appear without their disclosure triangles, so preventing viewing their sub-folders without opening them. The machine would hang (no response) about 3 times a month, requiring the mains plug to be removed, wait for 30 sec. than restart. Printer refused to respond about once a month, requiring its plug being removed, wait, re-plug and start again. A year and a half ago Apple produced another of its annual new op. systems which mostly cause a little difficulty each time. However, they had removed the behaviour whereby Firewire (a fast type of Apple/Sony designed) external hard drives refuse to sleep when the computer slept, requiring them to be switched off. This caused a very great many complaints from commercial graphic artists.


Six months ago there was another annual new Op. System and the fault remained. Get this: at no time has Apple acknowledged the problem let alone fix it. And after the last new Op. System last November, there was another type of change which did not affect me but greatly upset commercial users and which remains unfixed. Apple's excellent (if it worked) "Time Machine" automatic backup facility stopped working for some users, including me, after last November's Op. System change. At no time have I used dodgy software.


My Imac was made in 2011 and the then current Op. System (Snow Leopard) is regarded as the last stable one. Steve Job died that year and since then there has been increasing talk about whether Apple have become complacent and rather arrogant. I have heard this from even non-Apple users, unprompted by me. They are now the biggest corporation in the world. The last straw was the complete collapse of my (Apple-made) email program. The excellent Apple Discussions Forum (populated by expert users but not from Apple) could not find a solution and nor could Apple.


Since Steve Jobs rescued Apple in about 1998 Apple have had a successful run for 17 byears, a long time in high technology. Perhaps they are going the same way as Tesco. Even French Cuisine in France is difficult to find! A pity, if so, because I admired the elegance and (normally) ease of use of their machines. But the elegance must work. As Jobs said when comparing Mac and Microsoft: "It just works". Not for me at least. My new machine is a huge relief after all these years of frustration.


(I expect you now regret asking!)
 
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Steve. And I moan about MS7.

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Any more Steve or is that it.


I used Autocad on a PC MS 97 for all my architectural work from 1997 . I upgraded the one and only time in 1998. Since then on every MS upgrade up to and including MSxp the programme has worked perfectly. During that time it only crashed three times and once was because of my stupidity. I became so casual that I would not bother saving anything, rather stupid, until the end of the day it was that reliable.


Sorry to hear of your apple Escapade Steve.


Laurie
 
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Laurie
That's it (the abridged version!) I think it is right that when an organisation etc. which has had a very high reputation for a long time shows signs of falling off its pedestal and being high-handed with its customers, those feeling hard done by need not stay silent. Tesco is a similar case, and the banks. (That's enough about computers and Apple, at least from me.)
 
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I dumped my apple mouse within weeks, I just connected a logi tech and it all worked fine. And I agree about what happened when Steve Jobs died, everything went belly up and continues to do so. I must admit though, your troubles sound worse than most, but I'd imagine it stung after paying out all that money!
 
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