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Gary MacKenzie said:
The problem with the way we buy modern computers is that everything is set up for us, a few clicks once you login the first time and everything is there.
This is because everyone ( according to surveys ) want it that way, where many would be better off if the first screen asked which programs you wanted installed, or which you didn't.
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I've always built my own rigs but have to agree, when I'm helping friends or family with a new machine the first thing I do is remove as much bloatware as possible.

I'm sure with modern PC's a few extra programs won't slow things down much like they used to, but the less distraction for the user the better I think.
 
Chris, I'm surprised you got on well with Vista, most people didn't. Windows XP was a sound reliable version but is not supported any more. My company wouldn't have Vista (or Windows 2000) on any of their PCs. 7 was OK, 8 was awful, made barely usable by 8.1. I'm running Windows 10 both on my desktop PC and on my old Acer laptop, and don't have any trouble, except that on the rare occasions I use the laptop I have to download several Windows (and other) updates, or the poor thing is so slow it's almost unusable.
Pete
 
dos, gem , windows 3 , os/2 , 3.11 , NT , 2000 , xp , xp x64, etc etc etc
Have used every version of windows so far , including ME , and all were fine if you set them up for yourself.
 
Yes John, 95 was pretty good. Had to upgrade to 98 to get USB support though!
Pete
 
I think I go even further back than dos, first machine I had used cpm and 5.25 in floppy disks
 
When I started working for a US company in Swindon in 1989, they were still working with 8" floppy discs!
Pete
 
If we ignore pc's . i started with coding sheets , cards , and assigned run time slots to compile programs on a dec 2020 mainframe at college , and before that a spectrum 16k with tape drive ......
US and Canadian companies ( and BP Aberdeen and Shell St Fergus ) still used 8" floppys as they were secure, and few if anybody outside a big business would have access to them. Main storage was Reel to Reel tape https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c0/Largetape.jpg/220px-Largetape.jpg and hard disk platters that were removeable in big plastic housings
 
Well, if we're talking ancient history, Fortran IV when I worked in a Tech College, then a lot of direct machine code programming while developing automotive electronics. A friend of mine had the UK concession for the Commodore PET, so I learned Basic pretty well. Took one into work to show to interested parties, and the apprentice training officer thought it was brilliant and wanted one foe the training centre, so I was called to a meeting with the Directors and the Head of the Computer Department (an IBM mainframe with its staff of about a dozen servants, in an air-conditioned room). He refused to believe that something the size of a TV set could be called a computer, and refused to approve it, but proposed instead that the training centre rented a dumb terminal for the IBM, at about £450 each year, and installed cables from the Computer Room to the training centre (about £7k), then we could buy a copy of Basic and he would make a section of the mainframe's storage available, but not during the payroll run. The cost of a PET (the 'professional' model, with a proper keyboard and 64k of RAM was around £500 at that time (1977), so he said it couldn't possibly be any use for that price! I gave up.
Pete
 
None of which helps Chris of course!
Sorry for the thread drift Chris.
Pete
 
Thread owner
John Race said:
I find, well you know what I'm going to say.

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THIS ONE John that you have shown is right i think as it nearly came to this as i was bloomin angry but thankfully messin around pressin some buttons as i hadnt the faintest idea what i was doin an the web all came back on so the pc was saved
as i dont normally get angry as im quite a mild mannered chap but that night was just goin bonkers as i just had trouble with our new big sony smart hd tv an tryin to get that right was a challange but i did it but i was on a the boil when the pc stared as well
but everything is ok now crazy aint it
chris
cris
 
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stillp said:
Chris, I'm surprised you got on well with Vista, most people didn't. Windows XP was a sound reliable version but is not supported any more. My company wouldn't have Vista (or Windows 2000) on any of their PCs. 7 was OK, 8 was awful, made barely usable by 8.1. I'm running Windows 10 both on my desktop PC and on my old Acer laptop, and don't have any trouble, except that on the rare occasions I use the laptop I have to download several Windows (and other) updates, or the poor thing is so slow it's almost unusable.
Pete
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AN HI Pete yes i got on well with windows vista an used them ok for about 5 yrs back in about 2006 till about 2011 AN I ONLY packed it in online as the ISP was rippin me off by chargein to much as they did my nxt door neibour as he said to me one morn chris how much are they chargeing you for online an i told him an he said his was the same so we both jacked it in an i was gettin ready to move house as well but back to vista was ok but i really dont know much about computers as i was last in the queqe for computer brains bein handed out lol :smiling:
an Pete HOPE YOU AN YOUR WIFE ARE WELL ps an i dont understand what a cloud is apart from the ones goin over me in the sky lol :smiling:
chris
 
Both well thanks Chris, hope you and Jen are well too.
My last boss and I were trying to arrange a meeting once. I was using my paper diary and adress book, he used a smartphone. I said to him I can do something with my diary that you can't with your phone, threw my diary on the floor and stamped on it, then asked him how he's cope if he broke his phone. "Get a new one" he replied - "all the data is stored in the cloud". I couldn't do that, and not sure I'd want to!
Pete
 
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stillp said:
Both well thanks Chris, hope you and Jen are well too.
My last boss and I were trying to arrange a meeting once. I was using my paper diary and adress book, he used a smartphone. I said to him I can do something with my diary that you can't with your phone, threw my diary on the floor and stamped on it, then asked him how he's cope if he broke his phone. "Get a new one" he replied - "all the data is stored in the cloud". I couldn't do that, and not sure I'd want to!
Pete
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HI PETE so the cloud must be a memory progame ?
chris
 
Chris, it's a network of online storage devices. A bit like uploading data to a forum, but more private. My boss's point was that he could, if necessary, acess all his stored data from a different smartphone or computer.

Pete
 
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