discussion Paints - To hide or not to hide? That is the question.

[Guest]

Draws....Drawers? Who cares?This is a discussion on paint storage, nothing more, nothing less - and certainly not a thread for a lesson in grammor and / or spelin'!

Actually Ron the question was whether it is nobler to hide them or whether it be better not to hide them.

Personally I do not like the idea of hiding them as with a memory like mine how will I find them. I have enough trouble with them when they are not hidden.

Laurie

I will now "suffer the slings and arrows" !

 

[Guest]

were modellers, were allowed to be picky

 

[Guest]

Im starting to use Vellejo and have to say I quite like them.Im not too keen on the Model Air any more as I feel a bit ripped off. They come ready mixed so I feel Im paying for water (or whatever solution they use) when I could buy a bottle of some form of thinner and do it myself. But, hey, Im from Norfolk where we make Scots look like fools with no hands.

The model Color are quite good. The main thing I like about them is that because they come in squeezy bottles you dont lose any paint by transferring. Just put in 1 drop, 2, or a full bottle.

The only thing I dont like about the Vellejo range is the bottle size. I can fit more Humbrol pots into my tool box than I can Vellejo bottles, but hey, thats just me being picky.

Actually Penny the Model Air is prepared to allow easy airbrushing. The pigments are ground finer to avoid as much as possible airbrush blockages. There is also an additive to smooth the passage through the airbrush.

On cost of model paints if you consider the surface area that each bottle can cover the cost is negligible. The cost of paint in model making comes about due to the number of colours you need for each model. Doubtful with some colours that you will ever half empty.

The FA QS download here is invaluable if using Vallejo. The other downloads are equally good.

Apologies Ron for interloping on your article.

Laurie

 

[Guest]

The pigments are ground finer to avoid as much as possible airbrush blockages. There is also an additive to smooth the passage through the airbrush.On cost of model paints if you consider the surface area that each bottle can cover the cost is negligible. The cost of paint in model making comes about due to the number of colours you need for each model. Doubtful with some colours that you will ever half empty.

Then I happily stand corrected

 

[spanner570]

Actually Ron the question was whether it is nobler to hide them or whether it be better not to hide them. Laurie!

I know, it was me wot typed it....It was my feeble attempt at bastardising a bit of Shakespeare!

Hiding, storing, it's just words. I'm sure peeps get the gist of my 'Survey'

Yours,

Dylan Thomas

 

[john i am]

My vallejo (model air) are kept in the loft on a shelf close to hand in numerical order. There is no natural daylight whatsoever but the temperature changes are from warm in the summer to very cold in the winter (but not freezing) They have stood the test of time for about two years and work as if I'd brought them yesterday and I have even been known to leave the top off the bottles for a few days without no adverse effects on the paint. This is my method of storage of my paints and it seems that it works very well so I won't be hiding mine from the paint demons (sunlight / daylight/warm and cold temperatures) cheers John

 

[stona]

I reckon that most people lose paints to not cleaning the bottle/cap/tinlet/lid etc properly before closing up than they do from their method of storage. If you don't close them properly they will dry out no matter what they are.

I try to clean around the lip of my enamel tinlets with cotton buds before putting the cap back on on the grounds that cotton buds are much cheaper than model paints.

I met a traveller from an old/antique country/ land.......Oh bollocks!

Cheers

Percy Bysshe Shelley.

 

[Gern]

I reckon that most people lose paints to not cleaning the bottle/cap/tinlet/lid etc properly before closing up than they do from their method of storage. If you don't close them properly they will dry out no matter what they are.I try to clean around the lip of my enamel tinlets with cotton buds before putting the cap back on on the grounds that cotton buds are much cheaper than model paints.

I met a traveller from an old/antique country/ land.......Oh bollocks!

Cheers

Percy Bysshe Shelley.

But I do despair of getting to the mighty standards I see here!

 

[john i am]

Ahhhhhh tinlets I remember using those years ago so messy and take an age to dry.I remember having to use a screwdriver to open mine as the paint from previous use collected in the rim and getting the lid back off was a pain.They had a rather bad odour to them as well which gave me headaches and then all the paint that gets wasted I never perfected getting all that paint around the rim back into the tin I finally gave up and moved on but like anything each to their own as I am sure some people love these and would never use anything else.

 

[stona]

Well the trick is not to get loads of paint around the rim, or you will waste it. Not cleaning up the rim of a tinlet is just the same as not cleaning up the top/lid of any other paint container. When I used Xtracrylix I found those a pain to clean.

I've used all sorts of paints over the years and for me the best and most consistent finish I can achieve is with enamels of various manufacturers (I have stocks of Humbrol, Modelmaster and my favourite White Ensign), but as you say some will prefer something else.

Drying time is not an issue...what's the rush?

Cheers

Steve

 

[john i am]

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Well the trick is not to get loads of paint around the rim, or you will waste it. Not cleaning up the rim of a tinlet is just the same as not cleaning up the top/lid of any other paint container. When I used Xtracrylix I found those a pain to clean.I've used all sorts of paints over the years and for me the best and most consistent finish I can achieve is with enamels of various manufacturers (I have stocks of Humbrol, Modelmaster and my favourite White Ensign), but as you say some will prefer something else.

Drying time is not an issue...what's the rush?

Cheers

Steve

Time is a factor for me as I work and have a family and the hours I do get to spend at my bench I like to get as much done as possible and as quickly as possible not ideal to produce great work but everyone's situation is different and I appreciate that some people do have more time than others and can wait for paint to dry. I use model air as it drys quickly even quicker with an hair dryer.i believe nothing is set in stone on how to do things were modelling is concerned and I have always believed rules and methods can be bent to suit individual needs anyway.i am in no means opinionated and believe the way I do things is correct but that's just the way I do them.i couldn't make a model last for months like some people do as that would get very boring ( just my opinion) others may love doing this.As you can see I do have enamels well over 100 of them they are sitting in a draw redundant as I now prefer model air as it suits my needs better.I hate marmite others love it that doesn't make one right and the other wrong just different.Getting back to the origins of this thread the paints I use frequently are kept on a shelf close to hand. the paints I will never use again are sitting in a drawer anyway my paint on my latest build as just dried while I've been writing this so I will crack on time marches on and waits for no one thanks for your opinion on enamels paints and time cheers JohnView attachment 92258


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[Guest]

I agree John. When you have a family time is of the essence. All is rush to get into those hours allocated what you want to do. Very difficult especially if you run your own business.

Saturday was an all panic day. Senior boy cricket, senior girl netball, junior girl synchro swimming and finally Kempo for the junior boy. I wanted to go out on our boat Pauline to have time in the garden. Then if there was enough time to go to bed.

Certainly no time to worry about paints.

Laurie

 

[stona]

Hi John, I agree with just about everything you wrote above, people will always find what works for them best and go with that, and why not?

I have to disagree about the Marmite though. This is the nectar of the gods and when I'm king you are all going to have to have it lavished on your breakfast toast every morning

The importation of counterfeit Marmite (like that Aussie Vegemite) will be punishable by forfeiture of entire model stash.

Cheers

Steve

 

[spanner570]

Hi John, I agree with just about everything you wrote above, people will always find what works for them best and go with that, and why not?I have to disagree about the Marmite though. This is the nectar of the gods and when I'm king you are all going to have to have it lavished on your breakfast toast every morning

The importation of counterfeit Marmite (like that Aussie Vegemite) will be punishable by forfeiture of entire model stash.

Cheers

Steve

Steve, I use Marmite - To start off my compost heap!!!!!

Model stash packed and ready to be posted to you...

 

[stona]

Steve, I use Marmite - To start off my compost heap!!!!!Model stash packed and ready to be posted to you...

It's good to know that such a remarkable product has so many uses

Thanks for the stash!

Cheers

King Steven II

 

[john i am]

Hi John, I agree with just about everything you wrote above, people will always find what works for them best and go with that, and why not?I have to disagree about the Marmite though. This is the nectar of the gods and when I'm king you are all going to have to have it lavished on your breakfast toast every morning

The importation of counterfeit Marmite (like that Aussie Vegemite) will be punishable by forfeiture of entire model stash.

Cheers

Steve

My stash no retreat no surrender and yes I would eat marmite 3 times a day just to protect it even though it would make me very sick.Or I could just be your Robin of the Hood