discussion Paul's SdKfz 251/7 Pioneer

[PaulTRose]

building this for the halftrack GB ........picked up both boxes for £15 at a show earlier in the year

extra box supplies the bits and bobs to turn a 251 into a Pioneer version by adding gubbins inside and the bridge bits on top

 

[minitnkr]

They carried lots of tools, including 2 man chainsaw, landmines, explosives, & sometimes a flamethrower. It's hard to get good interior pics.

 

[Guest]

Off the top of my head, the rear two bench seats were replaced with equipment racks. I know I’ve seen at least drawings of those, but where?

Edit: Schützenpanzer by Bruce Culver and Uwe Feist (Ryton Publications, 1996), that was where. Page 195 has a top-view drawing of the Ausf. C that shows the equipment bins. No photos, though

 

[Tim Marlow]

Well if you two can’t find pictures, I’m sure nobody else can….so Paul has a bit of a free reign here.
Should be a great build though Paul.

 

[Gary MacKenzie]

Dragon did a 151/7 model , maybe their instruction sheets would give a bit more info for you. Also AFV Clun.
I'm seeing if i can find walkround pictures from saumur , i believe it had one.

 

[Steve Jones]

Enjoy

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[PaulTRose]

Ive got some interior pics of a restored one....if i was on my laptop icould post them lol

 

[minitnkr]

Great pics Steve. Differences would imply stock by mission. Thanks.

 

[Gern]

Welcome aboard Paul.

 

[Guest]

Differences would imply stock by mission. Thanks.

A quick look at Steve’s photos seems to indicate the rear benches were replaced by sheet-metal shelves supported by cantilevers from the outboard side, and with a little ledge along the inboard side. And then, like you say, just stow whatever will be needed on those. Which makes the modeller’s job a lot easier

 

[PaulTRose]

 

[Jim R]

This will be a build definitely worth following.

 

[Gary MacKenzie]

Das Werk releasing a version end of October might be worth seeing if instructions or internal shots are available then.

 

[The Smythe Meister]

If you can put up with the over the top Bruce Crompton, there's an episode of "Combat Dealers" in which they restore a Pioneer version,that might help?! :smiling3:
(Series 4 Episode 4 )

 

[PaulTRose]

If you can put up with the over the top Bruce Crompton, there's an episode of "Combat Dealers" in which they restore a Pioneer version,that might help?! :smiling3:
(Series 4 Episode 4 )

hes not the worst presenter on Discovery.........thats definatly Mike Brewer!

ive just watched that episode, unfortunatly its not a proper one.....just a normal 251 with the bridge bits scabbed on.......interior is unchanged...none of the gubbins

 

[PaulTRose]

basic shell done, now to add the gubbins

 

[PaulTRose]

state of play......

camo done......got some over spray but that should blend in later on

decals on........had a few problems......decals were thin and a few broke up.........and why should the numerals be slightly different sizes??????

next job is add some gubbins and a dark wash of some kind over it all

 

[minitnkr]

I did notice the anti-tank rifle in Steve's pics'. I had included them in some of my 7s as well as a flamethrower & two-man chainsaw due to a reference I can no longer find.......still looking.

 

[The Smythe Meister]

Blimmin Eck...
That's come on some!! ...
Looking excellent there Paul, very nice indeed mate

 

[PaulTRose]

and found an interesting pic............one of these in the employ of Royal Scots Fusiliers in Holland 1944