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Rye Field Model 5034: HVSS Type 80 M4 Sherman workable track links (1:35 scale)

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For a 1:35 M4 Sherman with horizontal volute spring suspension (HVSS) that I’ve been building, I needed replacement tracks. Unfortunately, HVSS tracks of all types are rather more thin on the ground than VVSS tracks, so after some searching, I ended up with this Rye Field Model (RFM) set as the probably least-bad choice in plastic for the T80 type of track :)

As a bit of background, Sherman tanks with HVSS were originally fitted with T66 tracks, which were all-metal, single-pin tracks with a “waffle” pattern on the outer face. At some point, the T80 and T84 types of double-pin tracks were developed, probably by Chrysler. Both have two-part track blocks with a chevron pattern, and a separate guide horn between the two halves and separate end connectors on the outsides of the track. The difference between the two is that the T80 is all-metal on the outside while the T84 has rubber outer surfaces; both have rubber on the inside, though. Visually they’re easy to tell apart because the chevrons on the T84 tracks are much fatter than the thin ones of the T80. T80 tracks were used during the Second World War, from about late 1944 on, but the T84 seems to have been used after the war only. (Incidentally, these same tracks would be used on the M26 Pershing, the M45, the M46 Patton and the M47 Patton II, but with a different style of guide horn, as the T80E1, T80E4 and T84E1.)

Opening the box, you may get a little bit of a fright. Four sprues are supplied, all of them like these (this is two, showing the front and back):

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That’s parts for 42 links per sprue, with each link consisting of six parts: two track pins plus the end connectors, left outer pad, right outer pad, two inner pads and guide horn. This makes for 252 parts per sprue for the track plus two for an assembly jig … great fun is in your future getting all this together. The parts are cleanly moulded with no flash and good definition, as well as pretty sensible attachment points, though. The parts with the two track pins are attached in groups of seven to a bit of sprue so they can be removed as a set. The guide horns are hollow as they should be, and have a hole in the top as well as the bolt that fixes the horn to the link moulded inside.

The way RFM would have you assemble all of this is less sensible, though. The assembly jig is intended for building a length of six links with the sets of seven double pins, leaving one pin free at each end. The instructions on the back of the box would have you put two sets of six outer pads into one half of the jig, place a set of pins on them, then glue on twelve inner pads followed by seven guide horns, and cut off the bit of sprue attached to the pins. At this point, you are to place the other half of the assembly jig over the assembled track link and press down, presumably to clamp everything together and line up the guide horns correctly. This leaves you with a length of six links, which you are then expected to assemble together into the whole length of track you need.

The upper half of the jig, though, is where things go wrong. Unless you cleaned up the sprue attachment points on the sides of the guide horns and the track pins very thoroughly, your length of track will now be stuck in the upper half of the assembly jig. Probably the best fix for this would be to remove the sides of the upper half of the jig, to give the track pins more room. However, I found a far better way to assemble the tracks was to do it very differently from how RFM would have you do it.

I began (after some experimentation that led me to conclude the above) by removing all of the parts from the sprue and putting them into a box with compartments, so I could keep them all straight:

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This alone took me about two hours’ of work before all four sprues were done (which I tackled in manageable chunks: “I’ll finish the inner pads from this sprue and then continue later” etc.).

Notice in the photo the assembled bit of track and my modified track jig. I felt it would be far easier to assemble the track on the jig as a continuous length instead of in stretches of six links, so I cut the end bits off one of the jig pieces. This prevents the top from being clamped on, but I didn’t want to do that anyway for the reason I already mentioned. When that proved to work, I went one better:

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This because the pins come in sets of seven, but if you use only a single jig part, you can at most put five links together and end up with pins sticking out beyond the end of the track.

Cutting the two jigs doesn’t need high accuracy, but you do need to take care aligning the two parts. The best way is to cut them both off right at the openings for the chevrons, glue them together like the photo shows and before the glue sets, put a set of pins in the jig to ensure the spacing is correct:

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On my first attempt the cuts weren’t close enough to the chevron openings, so the gap in the middle was too big and the pins wouldn’t fit properly. You can also use a ruler to make sure the two jigs are straight, though this is not critical.

Now, assembly of the tracks with this modified jig. Start by glueing all the guide horns to the pins:

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You can’t use the other half of the jig to line them up, but this is easy enough enough to do by eye.

Once you’ve got the jig altered, put seven of each outer pad into it, leaving some space at the end(s):

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The handy thing with the jig is that you can’t get the pads on the wrong side, because they’re mirror images of each other and so only fit on one side, not the other.

Next, put the track you already have and one set of pins onto these:

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Take care here that you always put the sprue on the same side, because the track pins have an inner and an outer side. The side without the sprue will be the outside of the track, because it has better detail (hollow ends to the pins, which couldn’t be moulded into the other side because of the sprue).

Next, one pad at a time, apply a drop of glue into the hollow in the outer pad using a fine brush (I used the one from the Tamiya extra thin cement bottle). All you need to do is fill the hollow with liquid cement, then put the inner pad on with tweezers and press it firmly down with your finger. Repeat for all the remaining pads on the jig:

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Finally, all that remains is to cut off the sprue:

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This is also best done while the track is in the jig, because else the pins will flex a bit with the pressure from your knife. Though none broke when I tried cutting outside of the jig, doing it on that feels like it’s safer anyway.

All that done, the track is very flexible:

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This is an Asuka HVSS sprocket wheel, which the track curves around very well. It’s also flexible side-to-side, probably more so than the real track, but that shouldn’t really matter.

RFM says you need 76 links per side, but I’ve not gotten that far so I can’t say if this is correct for my Asuka Sherman. However, the real tank had 79 links on a new track so 76 seems too few. I guess I’ll find out later :)

All in all, though assembly is a fair amount of work, these tracks look really good and seem to be pretty sturdy. I would certainly recommend them — if you don’t mind the tedium, anyway.

Ratings
Appearance: 9/10
Ease of construction: 7/10
Quality: 8/10
 
Hi Jakko
Sounds as if you are pretty impressed. The finished track certainly looks very good. If you had used the upper jig as per instructions frustration would have led to a lower score :sad: How do they compare pricewise to Friul tracks?
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Sounds as if you are pretty impressed.
You know, I am. Far more than I was when I first opened the box, certainly — I looked at the sprues and almost dreaded having to put all of this together.

If you had used the upper jig as per instructions frustration would have led to a lower score :sad:
Very likely, because of the difficulty in extracting the lengths from the jig and in having to connect the separate lengths of six with loose track pads, without the support of any jig at all. With my modified version it’s become a lot easier and quicker.

How do they compare pricewise to Friul tracks?
Good point. I’ve not checked, but I paid €16.55 for these tracks at AMMO by Mig Jiminez, which seems to be about half the price of a box of Friul ATL-138, the same type of track in white metal. I’ve never used (or even seen) those, so I can’t say how they compare in terms of assembly or detail, though.
 
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You know, I am. Far more than I was when I first opened the box, certainly — I looked at the sprues and almost dreaded having to put all of this together.


Very likely, because of the difficulty in extracting the lengths from the jig and in having to connect the separate lengths of six with loose track pads, without the support of any jig at all. With my modified version it’s become a lot easier and quicker.


Good point. I’ve not checked, but I paid €16.55 for these tracks at AMMO by Mig Jiminez, which seems to be about half the price of a box of Friul ATL-138, the same type of track in white metal. I’ve never used (or even seen) those, so I can’t say how they compare in terms of assembly or detail, though.
Fruils are ok, I prefer them to plastic, don't like MasterClub they have gone down hill , the tracks often have arrived bent. A quick clean out of the holes , fit together put in the wire and away you go. Expensive as you say.
The other metal track is the Easy Metal link Track, even easier than the Fruil, just bend over the pegs after you've build a length.

I shy away from the plastic mainly because I battle with placing the glue.
 
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I’ve never used metal tracks, largely because the thought of making the Friul ones with that wire doesn’t appeal to me. Maybe I should give them a try sometime, though.
 
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I’ve never used metal tracks, largely because the thought of making the Friul ones with that wire doesn’t appeal to me. Maybe I should give them a try sometime, though.
The only downside is the cost, it can easily be more that the kit. Think on tracks where you want real sag, as Russian then there is good reason.Of course then covering the tracks in mud is just a waste !
 
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A small addendum: I have now assembled a length of 76 links, which RFM says is one full track. As I said above, though, the real tank had 79 links per side. I think the following two photos illustrate the likely reason for this difference:

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At the top is the track at its minimum length of about 32.5 cm, at the bottom it is stretched to its maximum length of 34.5 cm — that’s 2 cm of play in it, or a 6% increase in length between minimum and maximum. On a model, of course, you’ll be dealing with the latter because the track on a Sherman needs to be tight around the wheels.

Still, when test-fitting on my Asuka M4A3 HVSS, I found 76 links to be too few, but with 77 links the track seems to fit as it should. The idler wheel is adjustable on the Asuka kits, and this was with the wheel a bit behind its lowest position, so I think there is enough movement in that to get the track tension right.

I now still have to figure out a way to complete the track. A little test in which I taped the free ends together suggests it is possible to out the track on with the ends joined, so I think I’ll connect the ends with one more set of pads to give a 77-link, closed track (and test again before the glue on them has set :)).

A few minutes pass

It worked!

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Good for you, looks good. Don't know if I could manage those small parts, but the results make it.
 
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Thanks :) Now to build the other one … though if I’m honest, it’s not the chore I expected it to be, largely because of the jig I modified. With no jig at all, building this track would be an exercise in frustration, I suspect.
 
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