discussion Straight to laquer?

[Guest]

ok, so i got my subaru... Boom, not sure if this is going to be my next build yet..... Mustang, ferrari spyder or Ducati, Mmm decisions.... Any hoooo, to the question, opened the box for a quick look, and the moulded body is very good and is the blue colour as shown on the box, now although im not one for worrying about doing exact replicas, i like this colour....... So, i ask, if i wanted, could i just laquer, decal and laquer again with out any other painting done ?

 

[Ian M]

I cant see why not but you would need a faultless body shell. In fact there was a trend many years ago with "metallic" effect plastic which was then polished and varnished... I believe they used 'duraglit'


If you fancy it all I can say is give it a go. Whats the worse that can happen. If you dont like it you can paint it after. (before you decal it that is...)


Ian M

 

[Guest]

Cheers Ian,... So if i didnt like it would i need to remove the varnish, or just primer straight over the top?

 

[Guest]

Is it the Tamiya? I would not do it, there is a big difference in the paint to the body, the paint is a pearl base or something and looks great. The plastic is flat and lifeless also do you not need primer on there to bite and protect the plastic?


I really would not consider this being in the middle of doing one.


Also don't make the mistake I made, paint the chassis too as the roll cage and chassis are the mica blue. If doing the build again I would prime and paint all the mica bits together where possible. It's a great looking paint and crucially, nothing like the blue plastic!

 

[Guest]

Is it the Tamiya? I would not do it, there is a big difference in the paint to the body, the paint is a pearl base or something and looks great. The plastic is flat and lifeless also do you not need primer on there to bite and protect the plastic?
I really would not consider this being in the middle of doing one.


Also don't make the mistake I made, paint the chassis too as the roll cage and chassis are the mica blue. If doing the build again I would prime and paint all the mica bits together where possible. It's a great looking paint and crucially, nothing like the blue plastic!

Ohhhhh.... Spoilsport, ok then, will purchase the paint.... Thanks for advice

 

[Guest]

Ohhhhh.... Spoilsport, ok then, will purchase the paint.... Thanks for advice

Mate, you won't regret it. If you do a goo. Prime and do all the blue at once you may get away with a can but it might be better to have 2 and keep a receipt? Not sure, I'm not good at soaring so I may have used more than required.


I know not how much you have used Tamiya paints but it's recommended to use their lacquer just a short time after the last wet coat otherwise you may need to wait up to a month for the paint to fully De-gas. I.e. maybe only 15 mins after but do some research. This is further on than I am so I haven't tried but if you don't and it looks ok, it can still craze months later.

 

[Guest]

Errrrr, no dougie no, not happening...... Laquer after 15 mins, thats crazy talk that is...... My spray routine, albeit new, apply primer.... Criticise, wait to cure, rub down... Have another go, apply colour coat.... Berate myself, sulk, wait to cure... Rub down... Have another go.... You get the picture, not yet got the confidence nor experience to for that yet....... May rethink colour scheme, something similar..... Dont shout at me, but im not one whos to worried about exact replicas (yet), just enjoying the process.... Mmmm pink

 

[Guest]

Errrrr, no dougie no, not happening...... Laquer after 15 mins, thats crazy talk that is...... My spray routine, albeit new, apply primer.... Criticise, wait to cure, rub down... Have another go, apply colour coat.... Berate myself, sulk, wait to cure... Rub down... Have another go.... You get the picture, not yet got the confidence nor experience to for that yet....... May rethink colour scheme, something similar..... Dont shout at me, but im not one whos to worried about exact replicas (yet), just enjoying the process.... Mmmm pink

I wouldn't shout and am no expert! I'm not sure it's 15 mins, maybe 30 or so but I've read this on a lot of different forums, it's not BS, you don't sand metallic paints as the particles scratch the surface and don't look good after clear coating apparently. I think the mica is almost the same. You get the wet coats on then very soon after you get the lacquer on so they dry together as one contacts at a different rate to the other and the degassing messes up the lacquer if done at the wrong time.


If you had a few bits of dust to get out the paint you would lightly sand those areas before lacquer but minimal sanding and then almost a month to wait before lacquer.


Just what I've read as I've said- on multiple forms and also Tamiya's actual website about the lacquer times

 

[Guest]

Thanks again dougie...... But im not up to scratch on that yet, and theres only one monthly cycle in this house..... And i make sure im well hidden at that time