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In my view a professional model maker, is someone who does it for a living, whom others recommend and who works to commission, making any alterations that the customer requests, and i'll echo steve here that is not me either, I've never sold any kits built or unbuilt on e-bay as being Scottish iam to tight to part with them and nobody would want them anyway.


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Ignoring the professions (i.e. lawyers, accountants etc.) who have to pass examinations in order to work. A professional is someone who makes their living doing something.


Sadly professional has nothing to do with quality. There are plenty of "professionals" out there who do a **** job and some very talented amateurs who are far more skilful. Often the "professional" is someone who can do the task to an acceptable standard in a reasonable time.


It falls back on the old 80/20 rule, the professional stops at 80 because time is money, the amateur will try for 100 because to them the extra time does not matter.


This does not cover those talented professionals out there who do go the extra mile.
 
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The minute it becomes a business, the fun goes out of it. Roy.


So right Roy. Used to produce my own fims for self interest. Then I started as a "pro" or was it "semi pro" or not even pro. ha ha producing films for the lolly.


When I stopped 2 years ago my own interest in making my own films had disappeared.


Laurie
 
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It's extremely kind of you to put my name on your list.
I admit that now I'm retired, I spend a great deal of my time model making. 'Pro'??? - no.


I don't do builds to commission but I have contacts who sometimes want my finished cars - I've just sold one of my giant scratch built Jaguars - another contact wanted one the same, but I refused. I build what I WANT - Not what someone else wants. Currently building an Aston DBR1.


I still don't call myself pro.


At best, semi-pro as to me, it's primarily a hobby.


If I never sold ANY models, it wouldn't bother me.


The minute it becomes a business, the fun goes out of it.


Roy.
well said. completely agree
 
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well i live off the profits from my sculpts and my commision builds, but i wouldnt consider myself a professional :(
Disagree Paul, your talent and skill, not only in sculpting but in painting means you're good enough to be commissioned. You make a living from it, you are in the top 1% that can do that.
 
I can see this going around for some time...


Sorry Paul you are by your own admission a pro " you live off the profits"


I would also agree that Moni is as well to some point. She is building to an order or commission not just building for fun and selling them to make room.


Although it's nice to get a pat on the back, but could we now stop making members uncomfortable by singling them out. It's just not what we are about.


Now can we get on with it... Building sumink.


Ian M
 
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Well I've never seen them on ebay but I can think of a few I would call professional. roymattblack (roy fitzimonds) our own Polux and moni ( who has sold privately so is officially )
Errhhh....what?!? :confused:


Thank you very much, but I don't consider myself as a professional!


And I sold only two models....


One was my winter diorama, and it was without my "concentiment" :(


The other was the 1/6 panzer II that I changed on the model shop for some kits and paints.


Well....and there was the Jeep 1/6. I leave on the model shop just for showing. One person saw it and ask for buy it. The shopper said that the model was only as a show item, but the shop has a "professional builder" that can paint it (a new one). The man accept...


Three weeks later the shopman call me that needs help....the man who bought the jeep don't like it....


"Please, can you repaint it again...."


It wasn't a confortable work, so I will never work for another again....


And this is my story!!! I don't sold models on EBay and I am not a Pro builder :) :) :)
 
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I can see this going around for some time...
Sorry Paul you are by your own admission a pro " you live off the profits"


I would also agree that Moni is as well to some point. She is building to an order or commission not just building for fun and selling them to make room.


Although it's nice to get a pat on the back, but could we now stop making members uncomfortable by singling them out. It's just not what we are about.


Now can we get on with it... Building sumink.


Ian M
Agree, if you're good enough to make a living from them, we support you all the way...if you're like most of us, just do it for fun then we support you as well.


All hail the mighty modellers!


Si:)
 
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