***Duncan,I have spent all day trying to find out from the Argentinian authorities,their lips are sealed and I informed them we have a couple of their Pucaras to study,that we captured from them during the Falklands war ! that did not go down too well,however I have other avenues unknown to them,watch this space,and yes more images are on the way,this country is a revelation on what is still extant and the people are so friendly to enthusiasts except the authorities that is,a restorers paradise in fact,she is a little beauty and well worth a model of her.
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Agreed nice subject for a model. I suppose the reg would be available somewhere , if is original. Curious wheels, probably off a motorcycle? P.S. Dont mention the war..la guerrea de liberatione des Malvinos, or something !
Wonwings diary-Aviation in Argentina-Part 2 of a special report.
Following the great interest in this subject, here are another batch of images from the Argentinian tour by Captain Hitchman,some of the types have still to be identified,the interesting machine registered as LV-RAA has now been identified as a Davis V-3 fitted with a Le Bond engine,the aircraft is an old American design.
Petrolini El Boyo,160 made for Argentinian flying clubs.
Schneider DFS 108-49 Grunau Baby glider,c/n 51.
Gloster Meteor.
English Electric Canberra.
Piper Super Cruiser.
Morane Saulnier Paris.
Following the great interest in this subject, here are another batch of images from the Argentinian tour by Captain Hitchman,some of the types have still to be identified,the interesting machine registered as LV-RAA has now been identified as a Davis V-3 fitted with a Le Bond engine,the aircraft is an old American design.
Petrolini El Boyo,160 made for Argentinian flying clubs.
Schneider DFS 108-49 Grunau Baby glider,c/n 51.
Gloster Meteor.
English Electric Canberra.
Piper Super Cruiser.
Morane Saulnier Paris.
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The Gloster Meteor would have made a good "caption" picture!
Such as:
"It's been such a long time since I landed here the dam trees have grown!"
Such as:
"It's been such a long time since I landed here the dam trees have grown!"
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or "green smoke on-GO" !
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What a goldmine, what a shame.
***I know Duncan,it is just like a time warp and everyone has vanished,the country is full of aviation interest,but seeing the way that Aeronca C.3 wing has twisted made me think what could be lost,amazing how many types of aircraft there are,watch this space as you have seen nothing yet,there are a lot more to come from Argentina this weekend.
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I don't think there could be so many Meteors in one place anywhere else in the world. They are also in superb condition and deserve to be properly restored.
***Richard,the Argentinians have always used a lot of British equipment,when the Falklands war started all spares etc were frozen meaning a lot of aircraft were grounded,for example the Canberra aircraft which had been fully overhauled at Samlesbury,the indigenous Pucara twins proved a poor match in war conditions and suffered badly due to their large blown canopies becoming unserviceable.
Yes there are a fair proportion of early marks of Meteor aircraft still extant,something a few British museums would give an arm and a leg for,a rare cache of military vintage hardware,not sure what the climate is like there,but it appears to be kind to airframes,has anyone ever visited this country ?
Yes there are a fair proportion of early marks of Meteor aircraft still extant,something a few British museums would give an arm and a leg for,a rare cache of military vintage hardware,not sure what the climate is like there,but it appears to be kind to airframes,has anyone ever visited this country ?
Wonwings diary-Aviation in Argentina-Part 4 of a special report.
More mouth watering types some never seen in the West,looking at some of these pictures makes me wonder how on earth they got into this state of dis-repair and dereliction ? just as if someone flew the aircraft then left it exactly where it is,even the hangar shots show dusty cowlings lifted,jacks underneath the wings and tools left around,if these aircraft were placed into containers and shipped here they would be flying within a year or so,so OK lets continue the tour-
Aero 45.This is a Czech twin which started its life back in 1945,yes the Russians did use them but this one is in pseudo markings,I have actually flown in one of these back in the UK when Peter Clifford had the agency for them at Kidlington,I remember the flight very well as a faulty micro switch showed one undercarriage leg as not retracted ! thankfully a wheels up landing was avoided by recycling the undercarriage legs and they eventually locked down,well it was a test flight.
Douglas Skyhawk.The Argentinian Air Force had quite a few of these excellent aircraft.
Beech 18.With parts hanging off and well boxed in,the yellow aircraft in the background looks like a kit built Europa.
Norduyn Norseman.All stripped ready for fabric covering,a rugged workhorse.
Curtiss Wright CW.16 E3 Light Sports aircraft c/n 3532.
Beech Staggerwing D17S.Undergoing what looks like a major rebuild.
Nord Norecrin.
More mouth watering types some never seen in the West,looking at some of these pictures makes me wonder how on earth they got into this state of dis-repair and dereliction ? just as if someone flew the aircraft then left it exactly where it is,even the hangar shots show dusty cowlings lifted,jacks underneath the wings and tools left around,if these aircraft were placed into containers and shipped here they would be flying within a year or so,so OK lets continue the tour-
Aero 45.This is a Czech twin which started its life back in 1945,yes the Russians did use them but this one is in pseudo markings,I have actually flown in one of these back in the UK when Peter Clifford had the agency for them at Kidlington,I remember the flight very well as a faulty micro switch showed one undercarriage leg as not retracted ! thankfully a wheels up landing was avoided by recycling the undercarriage legs and they eventually locked down,well it was a test flight.
Douglas Skyhawk.The Argentinian Air Force had quite a few of these excellent aircraft.
Beech 18.With parts hanging off and well boxed in,the yellow aircraft in the background looks like a kit built Europa.
Norduyn Norseman.All stripped ready for fabric covering,a rugged workhorse.
Curtiss Wright CW.16 E3 Light Sports aircraft c/n 3532.
Beech Staggerwing D17S.Undergoing what looks like a major rebuild.
Nord Norecrin.
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Amazing selection. Where are all the Yanquie Dollahs to rescue them? Time Kermit Weeks or similar heard about this cache.
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Yeah agree about Kermit, I just meant somebody with loads of dosh. The Meteors and Canberras should come home. There is a strong SeaBee (international) owners group that would like to know about that one too.
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I actually have quite a number of Argies on my team and the climate would seem to be fairly varied but generally much drier than the UK and hence why these things stay in such good condition.
I remember the Skyhawks were in use against the Harriers a lot in the conflict and were quite an adversary if used skillfully.
I remember the Skyhawks were in use against the Harriers a lot in the conflict and were quite an adversary if used skillfully.
Wonwings diary-Aviation in Argentina-Part 5 of a special report.
This C-47 Dakota is located at a model flying field,my research shows that she was once operated by Howard Hughes as NC63400 following service with the U.S.A.A.C as 42-92936 then sold as a war asset,then going to All American airlines as N91229,N19A Allegheny airlines,then T-34 with the Fuerza Aerea Argentina.
Douglas C-47.
Looks like a licenced built version of the Piper Super Cub ?
Curtiss Wright CW.16 E3 Light sports aircraft.
De Havilland Dove.
Nord Norecrin.
Sikorsky S-55.
Stinson 108-1 Voyager c/n 108-1581.
This C-47 Dakota is located at a model flying field,my research shows that she was once operated by Howard Hughes as NC63400 following service with the U.S.A.A.C as 42-92936 then sold as a war asset,then going to All American airlines as N91229,N19A Allegheny airlines,then T-34 with the Fuerza Aerea Argentina.
Douglas C-47.
Looks like a licenced built version of the Piper Super Cub ?
Curtiss Wright CW.16 E3 Light sports aircraft.
De Havilland Dove.
Nord Norecrin.
Sikorsky S-55.
Stinson 108-1 Voyager c/n 108-1581.
Wonwings diary-Aviation in Argentina-Part 7 of a special report.
Private flying appears to be healthy in Argentina judging by the number of small general aviation airfields,some of these pictures were taken in remote areas where airstrips and hangarage existed,the American aircraft influx is evident.
Taylorcraft BC-12,this design came to Great Britain and was built under license as the Taylorcraft Auster range of aeroplanes at Rearsby,Leicester.
Piper Super Cub.
IA 50 Guarani II with turboprop engines,Indigenous design an earlier version of which had radial engines,very angular and functional.
Stinson 108 Voyager.
Piper Apache,early American twin which gained great success as a private owner aeroplane.
Fleet 10 c/n 15
Taylorcraft BC-12.
Private flying appears to be healthy in Argentina judging by the number of small general aviation airfields,some of these pictures were taken in remote areas where airstrips and hangarage existed,the American aircraft influx is evident.
Taylorcraft BC-12,this design came to Great Britain and was built under license as the Taylorcraft Auster range of aeroplanes at Rearsby,Leicester.
Piper Super Cub.
IA 50 Guarani II with turboprop engines,Indigenous design an earlier version of which had radial engines,very angular and functional.
Stinson 108 Voyager.
Piper Apache,early American twin which gained great success as a private owner aeroplane.
Fleet 10 c/n 15
Taylorcraft BC-12.
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