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  • BarryW
    • Jul 2011
    • 6032

    #1

    Cyber Hobby (Dragon) Bf109E Trop

    I thought I would make a start before my trip to Croatia as I have a bit of time to spare.

    This is my second Dragon model the first being the 1/32 bf110. I loved the bf110 build, nice crisp plastic and a good fit but it had appalling instructions. I remember downloading Eduard 1/48 scale 110 instructions to help and they were more use than the kit ones. I don’t think the 109 instructions are that bad but they are not great. I am really looking forward to this.

    The box:
    [ATTACH]297859[/ATTACH]
    I am not keen on the box top illustration, it looks a bit toy like but what’s inside the box is superb at least as good as the 110 plastic, in fact slightly better if anything as the exhausts are hollowed at the tips. Interestingly sprue J is actually sprue J from the 110 and is labelled as such. It is the 110 engine for use in the 109. I will be depicting this aircraft buttoned up.

    All I have done so far is label up the sprues for easy identification and worked through the colours needed. The instructions just give paint numbers for several ranges including GSI Aequos. In these situations I write down the paint numbers listing the colours next to it. The instructions do give a list of colours against the names but it seems a little ‘short’ and on checking I found a lot more colours used in the instructions.

    In the picture those listed in the instructions are at the top, at the bottom are the numbers I picked out from the body of the instructions....
    [ATTACH]297860[/ATTACH]
    I used Google to identify and write down the paint colours next to each number. This will make identification a lot easier during the build without paging through the instruction.

    I will be using paint masks for all major markings and I am ready to start cutting plastic. I might get a chance to do a little more and post again before I leave for the airport Monday. If not I will update when I am back in a little over a week.
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  • Steve Jones
    • Apr 2018
    • 6615

    #2
    Barry
    I am new to the site and a big fan of the 109 so I will tag along if I may and see how the build goes. Good luck
    Steve

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    • Jim F
      • Feb 2015
      • 317

      #3
      Hi Barry,
      I'll join Steve in the cheap seats if I may
      Jim

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      • Si Benson
        • Apr 2018
        • 3572

        #4
        Hi Barry,
        I’ll grab a seat too if I may.
        Si

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        • Wouter
          • Apr 2018
          • 742

          #5
          Can't go wrong with a BF109! Looking forward to see how it compares to an Eduard one, I'll take a front seat as well.

          Cheers

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          • BarryW
            • Jul 2011
            • 6032

            #6
            Welcome to you all, great to have you along. I have built the Eduard some years back take a look.
            [ATTACH]298209[/ATTACH][ATTACH]298210[/ATTACH]

            First impression is that the Dragon is slightly better but we will see how it pans out.

            I have been working big on the i.p. and here is how it looks.
            [ATTACH]298211[/ATTACH]
            It is made up of a lot of parts and in my view bettter than the Eduard one. I have a lot more work to do prepping the cockpit sub assemblies for painting but won’t find any more time to get on with that and post again for over a week.
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            • RM6239
              • May 2018
              • 343

              #7
              Hi Barry

              I've recently finished the Eduard kit myself mate, interested to read that you think this one is a better kit. At least you will have the Eduard instructions to go off if Dragon's are anything like normal.

              Anyway I'll sit in and follow the build if you don't mind.

              cheers
              Ross

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              • rtfoe
                • Apr 2018
                • 9114

                #8
                Hi Barry,

                I'd like to join in with the guys and sit amongst them if you don't mind. Having built the 1/24 Airfix kit am interested on how this goes. Must surely be miles apart from the old Airfix kit.
                Dragon instruction sheets are affectionally referred to as distruction sheets by Milmodians. :tears-of-joy:

                Cheers,
                Richard

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                • BarryW
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 6032

                  #9
                  Sat right now outside my hotel in Split, booted and suited waiting for some others to go to a reception and decided to look in. Been having a nice relaxed time, good food, too much to drink and enjoying great company but nevertheless I am keen to get on with this build. Perhaps Monday.

                  Yes the instructions are not great but do seem to be reasonably ‘adequate’ so far, it is easy enough to deal with the colour issue. They are certainly nowhere near as bad as the Bf110 were. It certainly is sad that such great plastic is not backed up with good instructions. I will also need to research things like the walk lines which will have to be painted. Not difficult.

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                  • BarryW
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 6032

                    #10
                    Finally back at the bench.

                    Those instructions! Nothing major, more annoying than anything.

                    [ATTACH]300644[/ATTACH]
                    See those parts F43 and F44. I really cannot work out how they fit or exactly in what position. Looking at a drawing showing this area and these parts are not illustrated in position!
                    [ATTACH]300645[/ATTACH]
                    I have played around and know that the are fillets to fit a gap between the floor and fuselage sides but was unable after over an hour of dry fitting and playing to work out what to do with them.

                    My dry fit did show that the area won’t be visible when buttoned up even with the canopy open so I am just leaving these parts off. Frustrating though!
                    [ATTACH]300646[/ATTACH]
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                    • Jim R
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 15799
                      • Jim
                      • Shropshire

                      #11
                      Hi Barry
                      I am building a 1/48 Eduard Spitfire and have little experience of plane builds. I will follow your work closely as I'm sure there will be tips to pick up along the way.
                      Jim

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                      • flyjoe180
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 12463
                        • Joe
                        • Earth

                        #12
                        Re Parts F43/44 found these Barry

                        In Step 3, parts F44 and F43 are shown installed upside down; they’re supposed to close the gap between the fuselage sides and the cockpit floor.

                        However, I was uncertain about how to install parts F43 and F44 correctly...they just don't seem to fit where the arrow points along the edges of the cockpit floor. Since they seemed to foul sidewall parts, I left them off.

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                        • BarryW
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 6032

                          #13
                          Hi Joe - yes I cam to the same conclusion and left them out.

                          Jim - glad to have you along.

                          Here I am as of last night.

                          With the exception noted the interior parts just fall perfectly into place, no fit issues. I have finished the sub-assemblies needed prior to closing the fuselage halves and have primed them with MRP Black Primer.
                          [ATTACH]300735[/ATTACH]

                          You can see the Fine Molds seat harness all primed and ready to paint. This time I will try attaching with CA after painting, with my last experiment with these of course I painted them after cementing them to the seat and because they are so well defined and molded it was easy enough.

                          I have also been working on the engine and its panels. I will not be displaying the enigine (beautifully molded as it is) and I am proceeding carefully only using the engine parts needed to hold and fix everything together.

                          [ATTACH]300736[/ATTACH]

                          I love the plastic - so clean and crisply molded with virtually no clean up apart from sprue attachments.

                          Tonight, hopefully, I will be able to lay down the main interior colour using MRP50 RLM02 and progress the nose area a little more.
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                          • Wouter
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 742

                            #14
                            Looking good there, looking forward to see that cockpit painted.

                            How are those MRP paints performing through the ab btw?

                            Cheers

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                            • BarryW
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 6032

                              #15
                              The MRP paints are the best airbrush paints you can get.

                              My review of them here.

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