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  • Greyhead
    • Oct 2004
    • 581

    #631
    OK Steve so here it is, the method of assembling the SE5a with closed loop aileron control!


    The fuselage is held inverted in the assembly support and the underpan and wheels removed.





    The aileron control is not strictly a “closed loop” because there is in fact a gap between the two servo arms, although in operation this gap stays the same effectively making it a closed loop. Moving both arms outward in essence makes the loop longer enabling the quicklinks to be accessed with the wings not fully butted up to the fuselage and centre section. Notice the spring inside the fuselage pulls the servo links inwards.





    During storage, with the ailerons at neutral, the quicklinks just protrude from the root ribs and they are kept under tension by button thread attached to springs.





    The top quicklink is pulled out from its wing tube and is held open and in a protruding position by my third generation “special tool”, at the same time the spring tension on the lower quicklink is eased to allow it to retract into its wing tube but still maintain tension in the cables. As you can see the ailerons are now deflected up.





    The spring-loaded quicklink is attached to the link on the opposite side of the centre section.





    The wings are then located loosely in position and their supporting frame removed; the bottom wing grub screws are tightened slightly to hold the wings in place whilst allowing the top wing to slide somewhat.





    Pressing on the spring-loaded quicklink pushes out the centre section link, which is attached to the wing quicklink and the special tool removed, tension in the cables being maintained by the spring-loaded quicklink.


    At the same time as pushing on the spring loaded quicklink the bottom wing quicklink is pulled from its wing tube and held in position by the “special tool”. The servo link is pushed out from the fuselage against the internal spring tension, engaged with the wing quicklink and the “special tool” removed. Tension being maintained by the spring loaded quicklink and the internal spring.





    Both wings can now be pushed fully home and the bottom wing grub screws tightened. The tails of the rear flying wires are threaded through their anchor block and hooked to another of my special tools. Pulling on the ring applies equal tension to both wires and the bolt is then tightened; this is the most awkward part of assembling the model and is a procedure that would be simplified if I had three hands!





    The spring-loaded quicklink is removed and the centre section link held in position with a pair of forceps, tension now being maintained purely by the internal spring.





    The whole procedure is repeated for the other wings except this time the internal spring replaces the spring-loaded quicklink.


    Finally the wheels and underpan are fitted, the model turned the right way up and the top wing grub screws tightened.


    I was hoping that the weather would allow me to take some good outdoor photos but although the rain stopped long enough for me to get the model assembled it’s now looking decidedly dodgy so they’ll just have to wait for another day.
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    • Guest

      #632
      ...and then it chucked it down lol!

      sounds complicated to me...i wonder how many times you said "quick link" in that post lol.

      looking forward to the pics!

      Richard

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      • Guest

        #633
        Thanks Grahme. That's a neat setup. I'm sure I'ts a lot harder to explain than it is to do!

        Steve

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        • Greyhead
          • Oct 2004
          • 581

          #634
          I agree that it does still sound a wee bit complicated, but I hope the photos at least clarify the procedure somewhat! When I next assembly the model I’ll time just how long it does take, it all seems fairly straightforward when I’m doing it but as they say “time flies when you’re having fun”!!

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          • Greyhead
            • Oct 2004
            • 581

            #635
            Well summer has arrived, at least for today! That gave me something of a dilemma, should I go flying to get some thumb practice, or assemble the SE5a and take some “good” outdoor shots. I decided on the latter, which was the right decision as it turned out because the wind ended up quite strong; the streamers on the interplane struts were blown horizontal.


            To assemble the model actually took 20 minutes, not too bad, but longer than I thought it would be. I have only done it a few times and I’m sure I will get quicker with practice; I did make a couple of mistakes which meant I had to reverse a bit.


            The photos have turned out well; the only problem was the “giant” dandelions, which I’ve removed with the PhotoShop clone tool. I’m no expert when it comes to photo manipulation but so long as you don’t zoom in too close the overall effect is OK.








            I think the hangers in the background really add to the photos, hope you agree.
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            • Guest

              #636
              What a beauty!:clap2:

              Steve

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              • Greyhead
                • Oct 2004
                • 581

                #637
                I’m getting to quite like this photo manipulation! On this one I’ve also removed the grass overlapping the wheels, which gave the game away somewhat.


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                • Guest

                  #638
                  Looks like all your hard work has paid off nicely Grahame,

                  She looks great from the pics and the choice of Background setting is spot on, shame you can't get them to cut the grass a bit for you and it would be even better.

                  But I am not complaining, nice to see the outdoor pics, truly stunning !!

                  Regards

                  Mark

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                  • Guest

                    #639
                    Looking absolutely superb Grahame. As you say the setting suits the plane perfectly and I'm sure if you also had a play around with sepia tints you would get a very convincing period picture.

                    I had a quick play with some sepia toning, added a bit of noise and some softening and it doesn't look too bad. Those hangers give the game away a bit though, you need a period airfield!!

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                    • Greyhead
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 581

                      #640
                      Thanks for the positive comments.

                      I have to say that your “aged” photo looks excellent Richard; unfortunately I don’t know of any old restored airfields around here but at least the hangers add a bit of atmosphere.

                      Although I’m getting to enjoy using PhotoShop in an “artistic” way, previously I’ve only used it to produce instrument dials etc. from photos, replacing all the grass is way beyond my capabilities. But I’ll keep practicing!

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                      • Greyhead
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 581

                        #641
                        Here’s a front view to finish off the set of outdoor photos.


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                          #642
                          your work leaves me in awe. i noticed you detail as you go along i work that way myself. you are without a doubt one of the best modelers ive ever seen. i'm new to this hobby ive been doing it less than a year. i'm working on my third build right now a 1/5 neiuport 11 with working cockpit controls with as much detail as i could shove down the throat of this plane, ive posted several pics of the fuse on this site. ive learned much from your thread. thank you rob

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                          • Greyhead
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 581

                            #643
                            Glad you’ve enjoyed the thread and if it’s been any inspiration for your fabulous Neiuport so much the better.

                            As yourself I work without the aid of sophisticated tools and like to make as much of the models detailing myself as possible. I get a great sense of satisfaction from making things from “scratch” as opposed to a trip to the local model shop to part with hard earned cash!

                            The down side of all the detailing is of course the added weight and sometimes drag, which makes the models harder (less easy!!) to fly, but in my opinion it’s a small price to pay.

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                            • Greyhead
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 581

                              #644
                              At long last the strong winds we’ve been having weren’t in evidence yesterday morning so I managed to get the SE5a out to the flying field.

                              First a range check, then another with the engine running, everything worked fine, so out to the takeoff area, a quick check of the controls and “wow” the elevator’s reversed, back to the pits for a spot of transmitter programming. After all the time I’ve spent setting up the model it just goes to show, never take anything for granted. A certain disaster averted!!

                              With everything now moving in the right direction it’s back out for another attempt. As I eased open the throttle the model started moving forwards but very sluggishly; half way down the runway and the tail still hadn’t lifted so I closed the throttle. Surprisingly the model carried on and eventually bumped over the “rough stuff”. When I collected the model one of the landing wire brackets had broken; I felt sure it must have been fractured, or at least badly stressed, when I was making it as the ground wasn’t that rough.

                              No chance of a flight now but I thought I might as well do some more testing, I removed the cowl and tweaked the needle valve for maximum noise and tried a takeoff run again; this time it was a lot better with the tail lifting OK.

                              I have been a little concerned that my “standard” 13x6 prop looks very small against the large radiator with only a couple of inches of blade protruding into clear air so I fitted the “jumbo” 16x4 and tried again.

                              This time the acceleration was much better, in fact the tail was up in about a yard and before I knew it the model was a couple of feet in the air. I now had to make a quick decision, keep power on and risk a flight or reduce power and land? Common sense prevailed and I decided on the latter; luckily our mown square at Redmarshall is a good size, even so it was a bit of a bumpy landing but at least this confirmed my suspicions about the landing wire bracket having been weakened as the remaining brackets handled this severe “landing” with no problems.

                              The bracket was easy enough to repair; I’ve used tinplate this time instead of brass so it should be even stronger. The next fine day and I’ll try again.

                              I was a little disappointed to not actually get a flight but with a model of this complexity it’s not uncommon to not get off the ground on the first attempt, at least I managed a bit of air under the wings, even if inadvertently!

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                              • Guest

                                #645
                                Thanks for the Progress report Grahame,

                                Nice to see you are doing everything properly especially after all the hours and work invested in this model. It would be a shame to spoil it now. I hope all the teething problems iron out nicely, there's always bound to be the odd one or two with any new model and at least you have found yours.

                                Sounds like your decision on prop size has been made for you by the plane itself, Glad to hear she got some wind underneath her wings at last too, even if it was only a short hop. I can only imagine you are looking forwards to a proper flight with her now.

                                Keep us updated and if you get the chance, send some piccies of her airbourne too, I am sure she will look great in the air.

                                Regards.......Mark

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