Xmas Quiz...Spot the famous aviator!

[Guest]

Nice one Steve. Yes it was the white helmet of Keith Park. a man who I thought did not get the recognition really deserved. Dowding syndrome I suppose.

I had thought,as I posted it in his time zone, that Joe would have got it. In fact i am sure he would.

Larie

[Guest]

Ha! I like the aviators....but someday we have to play with "ours" builds!!!

Who build this one...?

maybe with time we become famous as well, just imagine:

- Look!! A stona's Junker....

- Yes! I remember those times...there were good modellers....they did history!

:P :P :P :P

[stona]

Nice one Steve. Yes it was the white helmet of Keith Park. a man who I thought did not get the recognition really deserved. Dowding syndrome I suppose.Larie

Not Dowding syndrome. Leigh-Mallory, Sinclair et alter syndrome. The Air Ministry managed to produce an official history of the BoB without mentioning either Park or Dowding.

Churchill was a bit miffed and in a letter (to I think Sinclair) compared it to writing about the Battle of Trafalgar without mentioning Nelson.

Cheers

Steve

[rickoshea52]

The moustache looks like Bleriot, but not the flying helmet.Cheers

Steve

Not Bleriot, but a pioneering aviator buried in Aldershot Military Cemetery.

[stona]

Not Bleriot, but a pioneering aviator buried in Aldershot Military Cemetery.

Give away!

It's Samuel Cody. I saw a documentary about him not so long ago. They don't make them like him (or his wife) anymore. Colourful doesn't even begin to describe him!

Cheers

Steve

[rickoshea52]

Give away!It's Samuel Cody. I saw a documentary about him not so long ago. They don't make them like him (or his wife) anymore. Colourful doesn't even begin to describe him!

Cheers

Steve

Was he ever! There are many references to him around Farnborough with schools, roads and technology parks named after him. His statue and a replica of the Cody Tree are at the airfield. My local IPMS club has his tree as the club crest.

100,000 people turned out for his funeral!

[stona]

Here's a double for you.

These two men were Fighter Command's first two aces of WW2. One became fairly well known, the other (with a revolver in his pocket, see the lanyard) is slightly less well known.

Clue#1 Photo taken May 1940, around the time the man on the left would receive a DFC. The other already has his DFC, the ribbon is visible below his wings. Both were 'aces' at this time.



It's a nice photograph of two young men, neither of whom will survive the war...lest we forget.

Cheers

Steve

[flyjoe180]

I know the decorated chap on the right as we look at the photo is Edgar James 'Cobber' Kain, a New Zealander and first RAF ace of the Second World War. Cobber Kain was killed in his Hurricane whilst conducting extreme low level aerobatics over the aerodrome in France June 1940 prior to the evacuation. He had been ordered home to England for rest; the final display was a farewell to his Squadron. He had 17 aerial kills to his name.

The other officer I have no idea about sorry.

[stona]

I thought you might get Kain.

The other chap is Newell 'Fanny' Orton. He was the first pilot in WW2 to receive a bar to his DFC. He was badly injured in France and did not fight in the BoB though he did eventually return to active service. He was KIA on September 17th 1941. Victory claims are always contentious but he is generally credited with 17 destroyed and 8 probables.

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

. The Air Ministry managed to produce an official history of the BoB without mentioning either Park or Dowding.Cheers

Steve

Steve that is why I call it the Dowding Syndrome. Dowding and Parks left in the cold. Churchill was a great man but in this case he got it wrong. A great shame and a shame of all the others as you say Leigh Mallory a weak commander. Plus Portol and Sholto Douglas snapping away. Easy to snap but you have to have bite and Dowding and Parks had it.

A lot of arguments around this but Dowding and Parks proved the pudding and there is no getting away from that. Like Montgomery and Ramsay, two great commanders, they had the guts to do as they wanted to do or be sacked. They were their own men. Very few have that. No man is perfect due to the contradictions which they come against. But a real commander knows where the goal is.

Laurie

[Guest]

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Change of the tide to give seafarers a chance to participate.
an Admiral of the RN.. Incidentally if you are in the Dartmouth area visit Dartmouth College. It is an incredible place and just bursts of the Royal Navy with its traditions and busts and pictures of all that is the Royal Navy. Been there twice and will again. It is an exceptional place with history without exception.

So this is the man a true Commander.

Just seen the picture again as it came up. To easy. What a face decisive and yet it has humility. RN was blessed with a handful of Commanders who were busy every day through out the WW11.

Laurie

[rickoshea52]

Who's this bloke?

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[stona]

[ATTACH]96818[/ATTACH] Change of the tide to give seafarers a chance to participate...an Admiral of the RN..Laurie

Sir John Tovey?

My best guess

Not sure about Rick's aviator, but I've seen that picture before!

Cheers

Steve

[Guest]

Sir John Tovey? My best guess Not sure about Rick's aviator, but I've seen that picture before! Cheers Steve

Blimey you have done it again Steve.

For the record Admiral Tovey was in CIC of the Home Fleet . His main purpose to contain the Scharnhorst, Gneisenau, Prince Eugen and Bismark.

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I have a sneaking thought that this is one of those brave young ladies. They transported the new aircraft from the factories in WW11 to the numerous airfields through out Britain.

Who ever it is they are wearing lipstick

Laurie

[Guest]

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Cheated a bit and I think it is Molly Rose.

Laurie