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 Wow..... Do you think people really count their gongs and then compare them to others.. That's just sad. To me there just a harmless way of saying I took the time to look and well done.... I certainly wouldn't cry myself to sleep if I didn't get one.... Shouldn't be treated as a judges panelComment
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 It comes of being married for many years Ron, I rarely get the chance to get a word in so when I do it has to be quick and to the point!Originally posted by \I agree totally with Keith.......What took me 20 odd lines to put over my point of view, he's done exactly the same in 3 - and a bit!
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 I have to say it iam in complete agreement with Keith and Ron I think good ole honest critiquing of kits is all that is required, but then again as has been discussed before are we as model makers capable of both making and receiving honest critique BAN THE GONG there now you can all shot me if you wish.
 
 
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 Scott, I'm in complete agreement with you! Let's go back to how it was before ..the good old days ( got my rose-tinted specs on!)
 
 
 Alan, let's not forget that there's a big difference between critique & criticism - we're all learners, no matter what our skill level is, so asking questions or offering opinions helps us to improve. It's up to the individual if they take it on board, or if they take offense at a comment only intended to be helpful.Comment
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 Or may be the computer Gods can fix it so that a particular rating would not go through with out an accompanying comment, being totally unknowledgeable about such things as overloading the server and such I may be talking out off my a**. I don't know if "critiquing" is the proper word but I think every one wants a bit of feedback on their builds otherwise why bother with a forum at all? From someone who has made his builds for many years in almost total obscurity {except for polite attention of almost immediate family and much thought to be unnoticed eye rolling} I find it exciting to share my work with those of same interests. also we must be careful not to pontificate too much about someone or others advanced skill or high tech A.B. stuff lest we discourage newcomers to the hobby by making them think that they can't converse or participate at any particular level. I know we're a friendly and helpful bunch and I'm no advocate of walking on eggs. Sigh... hope I'm not reading too much into this matterOriginally posted by \I have to say it iam in complete agreement with Keith and Ron I think good ole honest critiquing of kits is all that is required, but then again as has been discussed before are we as model makers capable of both making and receiving honest critique BAN THE GONG there now you can all shot me if you wish.
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 Jim its a good thought but alas not possible to do. Trust me I have looked in to that.
 
 
 What I could do though is like what I have done with the GB gong. Whereas they are now only in the completed sections, I could do other gongs so they only show in certain sections. The hard part would be to figure out which ones to have where...
 
 
 It may just be more trouble than it's worth and more confusion, what with things being in one section but not another..
 
 
 I think we all need to see how it plays out for a while, then see if further action is needed.
 
 
 This does not mean end of discussion. On the contrary, keep the feed back coming.
 
 
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 I agree, maybe it's ACTUALLY us that needs to have these considerations and not depend on the "Hypno-Box" to do it for us { keep the smilies though}Originally posted by \Jim its a good thought but alas not possible to do. Trust me I have looked in to that.
 What I could do though is like what I have done with the GB gong. Whereas they are now only in the completed sections, I could do other gongs so they only show in certain sections. The hard part would be to figure out which ones to have where...
 
 
 It may just be more trouble than it's worth and more confusion, what with things being in one section but not another..
 
 
 I think we all need to see how it plays out for a while, then see if further action is needed.
 
 
 This does not mean end of discussion. On the contrary, keep the feed back coming.
 
 
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 Patrick I'm not on about the person ive tried to help im on about the the posts after mineOriginally posted by \Scott, I'm in complete agreement with you! Let's go back to how it was before ..the good old days ( got my rose-tinted specs on!)
 Alan, let's not forget that there's a big difference between critique & criticism - we're all learners, no matter what our skill level is, so asking questions or offering opinions helps us to improve. It's up to the individual if they take it on board, or if they take offense at a comment only intended to be helpful.  Comment
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 This is interesting.. as usual on here, everyone is having their say in a civilized and constructive manner, which is good...
 
 
 It seems to me some of you good people are either indifferent as to whether these doodahs stay or go.
 
 
 Others want the things banished to history and as Patrick puts it "Back to the good old days."
 
 
 No-one has posted they want them left as they are.
 
 
 So, to save poor old Ian having to sort out which of these things to keep and where, can I suggest Admin. just pull the plug on all them and let the poor lad have a kip in peace?
 
 
 The man from Demonte...He say yes!......Who remembers that ad. on the t.v.?Comment
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 i will thenOriginally posted by \
 No-one has posted they want them left as they are.
 
 
 im quite disappointed things have been changed, whole thing is just a bit of fun, got nothing to do with 'ive got more than he has nah-nah-nah'
 
 
 i use them as a quick way of showing appreciation.....some times i dont have the time/enthusiasm to actually make a post but clicking that little button lets the other person know i appreciate what they have done
 
 
 ive had models ive been really proud of get totally ignored, then stuff i think is so-so get lots of likes.....swings and roundabouts, dosnt actually worry me......like i said, just a bit of fun, i dont take his hobby that seriously!
 
 
 this is the only forum i frequent (and im on 5 model forums) that have this feature and i really like it
 
 
 and dont you dare touch the smilies!!!Per Ardua
 
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 The reason why they was added in the first place was because people's thread had xx amount of views and no comments, which made people feel their posts wasn't interesting to anyone, at least with a like button rather than have no comments or short none constructive comments it was easier to just press the button, and if someone does have something to say they have that option too.
 
 
 I personally don't see a problem with them, if you don't want to use them then that's fine, probably the people that's use them aren't the ones that participate too much in the forum but appreciate people's work.
 
 
 Maybe just narrow them down and have less of them or even one that just says like.Comment
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 The thing I like most about this forum is the helpful and friendly advice that is given, not the gongs. When members put up photos of their efforts I am sure it is because they are proud of them, whether experienced or novice, and want GENUINE comments, not gongs that are given out like sweets.Comment
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 As I said that's what started it, people didn't like the fact they had lots of views and no replies, I've removed them all apart from the like.Originally posted by \and want GENUINE comments, not gongsComment

 
							
						
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