Farewell J. Clarkson.

[Guest]

Guy Martin is the man. OK boss.


His TV series have been far better than anything Clarkson cooked up.


His series renovating a barge were informative showed skill bit of science thrown in and at time just hilarious. Plus he is funny intelligent a mixer and down to earth. He will also have a go at anything. More importantly I have not heard him come out with anything derogatory.


Laurie

[Guest]

Big step for the BBC. Contrary to his carefully cultivated image, Clarkson was very much a BBC insider.
I had the dubious pleasure of working with him on live shows where he was much more outspoken than on broadcast TV. I found him to be an oaf, and his casual racism was deeply offensive. His justifications for this have echoes of Richard Keys and Andy Grays pathetic 'banter' defence. Sky dumped them, and rightly too.


At one show, sponsored by a Korean manufacturer, he never stopped belabouring 'jokes' about dog eating. In the presence of several Mercedes executives he maintained a school boy prattle about 'the war' almost all afternoon. It may or may not have been an act, but whatever it was, it was not to my taste. It wasn't to the production company's taste either and he was quietly dropped after two years. I may be in a minority, maybe 'jokes' about dog eating really are as funny as some (and it was by no means all) in the crowd found them.


I'd argue that Top Gear wasn't really a motoring show, it was a light entertainment show, based on the on screen personas of the three principle presenters. As such it is now gone. The BBC needs to decide whether it wants another entertainment show with some incidental and unaffordable cars, or a genuine motoring show.


Finally, if you assault someone in the work place physically and verbally, then you should face the consequences, whoever you are. I know what would happen to me if I pulled a stunt like that


Cheers


Steve

I agree Steve, Top Gear was not a real Motoring show more like a show about 3 Prats! travelling the world & Playing with Expensive motor cars at the Licence Payers Expense.


John.

[Guest]

Going by Steve's experience, it rather seems to have been a case of In Vino Veritas, meaning that, after drinking, the real persona appears. Go to the pub, get slathered, and any normal brakes to behaviour no longer get applied (and, no, having witnessed similar results of over-indulgence, I'm not putting that up as a defence.)


For me, his books can be hilarious, and often more sharply pertinent than they are credited, but Top Gear was totally irrelevant, since my car is a means to get from A to B, and nothing more, so I rarely watched it (Cameron Diaz participating, though, and all bets are off.)


Edgar

[eddiesolo]

I think Steve's info has illuminated the person that is J. Clarkson. I found him childish and his comments silly, but entertaining, sort of 'bad-boy' image. But from what Steve has commented we only see a diluted occasional idiot side, but it seems to go further than that-almost like he enjoys bating people with juvenile antics. Shame on him and a shame that this has happened-TG was the only reason I watched TV-I know it was a entertainment-but that is what I liked about it-three idiots messing about-again he had to take it too far.


Si

[takeslousyphotos]

I'd really like to see him take over the "Jeremy Kyle" show ........

[Alan 45]

The thing is even if he is like that then it doesn't mean he's a bad bloke , none of us know the real jeramy clarkeson, problem with today is ideology and all ideology is fascist and the side is evil ,


I believe you can't judge a person on what they say or what they think you can only judge them on what they do

[stona]

I believe you can't judge a person on what they say or what they think you can only judge them on what they do

I agree with you completely. You can't judge a person by their public persona, or act if that's what it is. I found aspects of that act distasteful, but he was nonetheless a popular BBC entertainer which means I may not be in a majority


Bernard 'there were no Pakis at Dunkirk' Manning was inexplicably popular as well as being ignorant of history.


You can judge someone by his or her actions and assaulting someone in the workplace, or bullying, is, in my judgement and evidently the BBC's, not acceptable. I think that the BBC should receive some credit for making a hard decision.


Cheers


Steve

[Alan 45]

I agree with you completely. You can't judge a person by their public persona, or act if that's what it is. I found aspects of that act distasteful, but he was nonetheless a popular BBC entertainer which means I may not be in a majority
Bernard 'there were no Pakis at Dunkirk' Manning was inexplicably popular as well as being ignorant of history.


You can judge someone by his or her actions and assaulting someone in the workplace, or bullying, is, in my judgement and evidently the BBC's, not acceptable. I think that the BBC should receive some credit for making a hard decision.


Cheers


Steve

I agree Steve about the stuff that went on well what little we have been told and May and Hammond didn't think there was that much to it from what I've seen them say on TV , all I will say is clarkeson has never been overly offensive on screen but he's been made to look that way ,


I personally think that clarkeson was the most persecuted person TV quite simply because he wasn't PC

[Guest]

I'd really like to see him take over the "Jeremy Kyle" show ........

I'd really like to see him co-host the jeramy kyle show. its about all his talent and I use the word loosely is suited for.


scott

[john i am]

The guy suffered a bloody lip hardly life threatening we don't know the exact details of exactly how this happened from a scuffle or a punch maybe a slap who knows.Whose to say that this little spat they had might have being brewing for a while and that the "victim " might have actually caused the incident to make a name for himself off the back of Clarkson.We shouldn't judge people on assumption without knowing all the facts it's obvious from previous posts Clarksons like marmite people either love him or hate him I personally thought he was a great entertainer and he will be missed by thousands home and abroad.In my humble opinion it's been blown out of all proportion and people are to quick to jump on his back but I'm sure he will rise like a Phoenix from the flames and his career is far from over.I look forward to his next presenting programme and I assume that the next series of top gear will be totally pants. Nanny state rules again 20 -30 years ago they would have shook hands and gone for a pint together.The director at the BBC had to be seen to do the "right" thing and sack him.Chris Evans name as been mentioned as a replacement and to his credit he said no and that the presenters were the best ones that they could ever be.i totally agree.

[Guest]

Believe me when I say in my job there are a great many people I would just like to slap black and blue but, you just don't do it or you get the boot are you willing to lose a well a great deal of money and a cushy job to endulge that feeling. Beside like people have said he is a very public figure, how would it sit with anyone here if our kids just started doing it and used the excuse clarkeson did it and got away with it.


scott

[Guest]

You are very right Scott. People like Clarkson and some of the prima donna footballers seem to think they can physically do what they want and they do get away with it. Why they do and are not prosecuted I am at a loss.


The law of the land is you do not physically attack any other person unless you are defending yourself or others from the attacker. A smack on the lip and having to go to A & E is not on.


If I went along and smacked Clarkson on the lip all hell would be let loose. The producer thought he had lost his job according to friends and his family are going through hell. The poor chap has not said a thing nor complained to the police.


Finally, and this is what for me sums up the fellow, he has shown publicly not an ounce of contrition to either the producer, the produces family, the BBC or his fans who according to some here are distraught. One can only surmise that he is very selfish and cares not a fig about any one else but himself. Why not he has after all millions in the bank for which he he has no doubt his single loyalty in life. He just could not care less.


Laurie


Just add. What if it had been on the other foot and the producer had smacked him on the lip. Every one would be saying sack him.

[Wendall]

I do find the hypocrisy at the BBC staggering. A Director General once bit a man and kept his job. They have protected peadophiles for years.


One presenter got the sack for stuffing half of Columbia up his nose yet they had him back!


I don't think they can be credited as a moral compass for the nation!


As for Clarkson, striking someone is probably not the best way to get your point across but he is a monster of their own making. Most of what he is criticised for would have been approved by their 'compliance' department. The nursery rhyme incident was a farce. It was leaked by an internal source! Already stinks of a fit up job to me! Then they get the alleged word analysed by a sound specialist whos final opinion was that he couldn't confirm the word but the cadence of the sound he made indicated that he may have said 'the word'! Wonder if that would stand up in court?


What I see is another cheap victory for sandal wearing, vegetable waving, liberal fascists who like to tell us what we should be thinking and saying (anybody else read Orwell?) and love nothing more than to be grossly offended at everything on behalf of everyone. The BBC is a slightly darker colour of sickly beige without him. And like it or not, a lot less representative of the population it is supposed to serve.


Still they've got plenty of other highly paid presenters all climbing over one another to be the most politically correct. Let's see if one of them can earn as much money for all of us license tax payers!


Just my opinion though

[Alan 45]

Jason that was the best discription of the bbc I have ever read

[Guest]

You'll miss it when it's gone.