What defines "Pro-built"?

[Adrian "Marvel" Reynolds]

I'm seeing more and more built models on eBay with the words Pro-built, I wonder what other members think about this and do you sell models with this tag line?


For my monies worth a lot of the models I see saying Pro-built do not come up the high standards I see on here, is it a case that because some one may have sold built models in the past they now consider themselves professional?


I guess I'm just interested to see what your thoughts are


Adrian

[Guest]

Argh please don't start this

[Guest]

In my opinion, nobody is pro built unless they are Brett green or somebody like that. This is a learning experience for each model we build, and we get better each time we build one. I prefer to think we are all students learning

[stona]

What defines "Pro-built"?


Someone's opinion....often of themselves


I very much doubt that many of the people claiming 'pro-built' models are professional model builders. We can define 'professional' in this context as someone engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur.


That's not to say that I haven't seen plenty of terrific models built by people who are self professed amateurs


Cheers


Steve

[Alan 45]

For pro built means your contracted to build something, anyone who just builds to sell is the same as us no mater how good they are at doing it , to me their just hobbyists like rest of us


To be professional you must be in payed or contracted work in what ever field with professional training


I can class myself as a professional painter as I was trained and worked for companies and I ran my own listed company, anyone can paint and get just as good as a professional but they can't be classed in that field without the training

[Guest]

Yes I agree with Alan 45. Those people who built models for architects and museums, come into the professional model builders. We are just mere amateurs, well I am!

[colin m]

As said above. Professional normally implies some form of payment. So, sell a model to a mate for a quid Adrian, and you are a pro...............

[Guest]

Anything that's not built by me! :P

[PaulTRose]

i see those kits on ebay too.......to term them 'pro built' is laughable at times!


probuilt, in my book, means built to an order......someone asks you to build kit x for money z...a pro is someone who does that for a living

[eddiesolo]

Ebay has become the bane of model makers. Too many so called 'pro-built' stuff, that isn't. When I sell mine I put I am not a pro builder and to look at the pictures to make their own minds up.


I think that is why prices for models are low, too many folk stung by so called pro-built crap so are more careful when buying.


As said, a pro-built item is something made by a professional modeller, or artist or to order from said people. Some stuff I look at and they are wanting silly money for tat.

[eddiesolo]

Anything that's not built by me! :P

Heh heh...was thinking the same

[Alan 45]

Next time I see this on eBay I'm going ask if they make prostitutes

[yak face]

I too see these so called pro built models offered for sale and like everyone else i dont reckon much to them. I think the problem lies with the sellers , these people probably bought the kits somewhere else and dont realise that they are just built kits , no more than that. The other possibility is that the seller built them and thinks that by calling them pro built hes going to get more for them! To me a pro builder is a rare bird indeed , there are several like phil flory ,mig jimenez etc that do it for a living as do commision builders like our very own Mike ( chameleon 2009) , these can rightly call themselves pro builders ,- me? Im just an enthusiastic amateur ,even though ive sold plenty on e bay i would never say i was a pro , tony

[rickoshea52]

Its not just on ebay, I saw a stall at a model railway show selling "pro-weathered" loco's and rolling stock.....pffft! I wouldn't let it anywhere near my layout and stock. And the guy had the cheek to be asking silly money.


I had some of my stuff running on the club layout at the show and he asked who did the weathering, apparently someone had seen my stuff before his and made a negative comment about his and suggested he visit our layout to see some "proper" weathering!

[Guest]

Heh heh...was thinking the same

Actually I should confess that I've sold a few models on eBay & described them as ' pro built '...[ATTACH]116604.IPB[/ATTACH]