Your thoughts please gents?!?!

[eddiesolo]

He's obviously a big head with a small brain cell rattling around in there somewhere!

Could be too much glue and paint fumes.

[Alan 45]

Well I agree about you not seeing panel lines on aircraft but can find no reason why someone should loose their temper about it lol


Reason to show panel lines , to show off the detail of the kit


Reason not to show panel lines , your crap at painting them

[eddiesolo]

Reason not to show panel lines , your crap at painting them

+ 1 on that count. I can only say again, why do you think my models are all knackered

[Alan 45]

+ 1 on that count. I can only say again, why do you think my models are all knackered

Reason I gave up aircraft

[Guest]

It is like any hobby, there are folk who just enjoy slapping stuff together, others that do their best or, how they like it in weathering/painting and then there are the guys that are semi or professional.
Nothing wrong with trying to get better but you have to do what you like in a style you like, if paint is applied with a roller who really cares. Enjoy what you make if it makes you happy.


It can be folk like him that spoil it for folk wanting to start or are timid.

I think Si you have a future career in philosophy.


Or is it Silosophy.


What ever Si you have it in a nutshell. What and how you have expressed it is perfect. We are many with different skills with a single purpose.


Laurie

[Guest]

We show panel lines on an aircraft for the same reason as we apply a wash to armour - SCALE!


On the real thing they may not be particularly visible, but on a much smaller scale representation they need greater emphasis.

[eddiesolo]

We show panel lines on an aircraft for the same reason as we apply a wash to armour - SCALE!
On the real thing they may not be particularly visible, but on a much smaller scale representation they need greater emphasis.

Agree Patrick, it does help to emphasise the model, and is a good technique to learn.

[Gern]

We show panel lines on an aircraft for the same reason as we apply a wash to armour - SCALE!
On the real thing they may not be particularly visible, but on a much smaller scale representation they need greater emphasis.

Absolutely right Patrick. Even though they are usually way off true scale on our models, we know they should be there and the model somehow doesn't look right without them.

[Guest]

I think that panel lines and all the other things we add are an artistic way of making the aircraft look like


the real thing.


Some things actually go further to make them look like "models" of perfection. Not knocking that


as I quite like them but they are not in my character to follow.


If you study a good art picture it all looks just right. But if you get up close the brush strokes are just


confused. The ability of the artist to produce an authentic realism (phew does that make sense). Just


the same as the model maker.


Laurie

[Alan 45]

I have to agree that an aircraft looks better with the panel lines than without


No one seems to moan if you paint a gun black without highlights even though they do look black from only feet away funny that

[PaulTRose]

ultimatly though it is YOUR choice as it is YOUR model and as long as YOU are happy then what does it matter?


just cos someone says 'you should do this to it' dosnt mean you have to


i build for myself, its my way of destressing from life, i dont build to win medals or awards......yay for those that do cos thats their choice and im always happy to look at their work....but im quite happy doing what i do

[Alan 45]

ultimatly though it is YOUR choice as it is YOUR model and as long as YOU are happy then what does it matter?
just cos someone says 'you should do this to it' dosnt mean you have to


i build for myself, its my way of destressing from life, i dont build to win medals or awards......yay for those that do cos thats their choice and im always happy to look at their work....but im quite happy doing what i do

That's exactly how I feel about the hobby

[Guest]

I'm with you guys above. Enjoy the hobby for yourself. Its your aircraft etc so build it the way you want and not to please others.


I am about to read the Tamiya Model Magazine. None of what I build will be anything like those in the magazine and I don't intend to even try. I just hope there are lots more youngsters wanting to build models and not sit around staring at phones and boxes.

[Guest]

I have to agree that an aircraft looks better with the panel lines than without
No one seems to moan if you paint a gun black without highlights even though they do look black from only feet away funny that

As said Alan artistic licence. But for me study the aircraft or armour or boat to get that feel.


For instance, on aircraft, panel lines do not feature in most photos. They actually occur as a shadow


line behind the meeting of panels not as lines. You will see on Helicopters the rivets and


after service these will occur as darkened behind the rivets as they become stained with wear.


Panels lines become obvious for two reasons. First as the panels each side of the panel


catch the light and the joint has a slight darkened look. Depending on the light the panel


darkening will occur as distinct one side and flared on the other.


The second reason is dirt. The panel collects either dirt or in the dessert for instance


sand or dust. This acts in the same way. A distinct line on the forward part of the panel line


and a flared line on the backward side.


Laurie


Hell I am in for it now.

[Robert1968]

I would like to put in my tupenceworth if that's all right. I started modelling as a child and I never had any political views on what or where a tank came from let alone what it should or shouldn't look like or an aircraft.


To be honest I think I first built a 1/72 me 163 Komet and I painted it red like the instructions said there were no swastikas back then if I can remember rightly and it was hunbrol enamels ( acrylics are taking over ( my view )


Now 30 odd years later I've returned to the hobby and I enjoy it and it's a relaxing hobby but I think there is too much critism out there ( my view )


I stared building my first tank and diorama earlier this year but I have seen the stuff that is in here and I feel it's not worthy of putting it on here to display, my skills ( skills?? ) I have learnt over the years and I'm nowhere in the same league as Si or Alan, Laurie, grumps, Ken etc


These people I learn from and look at their work ( and views ) to better what I do ( not copy or reproduce ) and I find it is still a relaxing hobby. Painting and weathering is an art form ( so we are all artists and yes if you look at the tanks and aircraft, ships figures and even sci fi they are not clean and pristine but battered and weathered, unless you go to a museum ( but even these aircraft/ tanks/ engines/uniforms / even machine guns in museums have weathering and age in them hence the word weathered look


But at the end of the day whatever skills we have or don't have we should enjoy the hobby go with what it is.


Views and critism most welcome


Robert