If ìts recognisable for what it it is then good enough ,I havent done for a while don't suppose many have what with covid but have enjoyed entering comps at club shows have never been told its the wrong shade/hue of that colour ,im sure a lot of club shows judge to the same criteria as I said if recognisable for what it is good enough. Not the answer to the question I know but are some really that anal as to worry about scale effects of paint ,green is green blue is blue they come in a multitude of shades if the cap fits wear it sorry but there's no way I'm going out to the car ?.............to get my face of concern. Dave
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It is quite simple it is your own artistic sense of what looks right.
That could depend on your own judjment or looking at the results of an-other's judgment.
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Yes Mark but it is the only one you have. What other method do you have none absolutely none.
What ever you do however you do it all is judged by our own eyes.
Now if we were a sparrow we could see 8 times a humans capabilities & colours would be totally
different in perception. Something which would look camouflaged to us & indistinguishable at a
distance may look like like a rabbit or mouse to a little sparrow.
Which goes to show it is the perception of our eyes.
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Just go with whatever makes you happy :tongue-out3:Comment
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The eyes don’t perceive Laurie, the brain does. Eyes are biomechanical constructs that can turn light energy into electrical signals. They have no perceptive ability. It is the brain that interprets those electrical signals. Some ancient Polynesian languages do not have the words to distinguish between certain colour groups, so individuals brought up in those communities have difficulty discerning differences in those colour groups. They have identical eye structures to us, so do see the colours. It’s just that they lack the language to describe what they see, so don’t see it. There are a number of ancient mariners on this forum, and I bet they have many different descriptions of the sea colours they have seen. However, I further bet none of them have seen the sea looking the colour of a glass of claret. Homer described the sea many times as “wine dark” in his ancient epic “odyssey “ though, so it was how he saw it. This was because the Greek language of the time had not developed the subtlety to distinguish between deep blue and deep red, so those colours were simply not discerned from each other.
Sparrows, actually all birds, have different structures in their eyes that allow their brains to perceive the world differently to us. They see into the ultraviolet spectrum for a start. They have four types of cone (light colour sensitive) cells, and these cells have further adaptations to allow better colour acuity. We only have three, and do not have the further adaptations. This evolutionary improvement allows birds to better discern food supplies at a distance (coloured berries stand out more from the bush background) and to determine between male and female individuals due to visible ultraviolet markers in the plumage. Comparing our vision with theirs is unfortunately therefore comparing apples with oranges.Comment
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It’s probably slightly more complicated than that, but basically, yes. A few years ago, I watched (part of) a TV programme about this, and an interesting point it made was that colour perception is, in part, culturally determined — which, of course, leads into the question of how intertwined language and culture are. Anyway, it showed pictures of an experiment done in Southern Africa and (IIRC) Europe, in which people were shown a ring of coloured squares on a computer screen. One of the squares had a different colour than the others, and the test subjects had to point that one out. The thing here is that people would expect everyone to do about as well on that (barring colour blindness, of course, which most people don’t understand correctly anyway too
) but in practice, it turns out that the Africans couldn’t distinguish some colours the Europeans can, and vice versa.
This ties into:—
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This applies to most reptiles as well. On the other hand, most non-human mammals are colour-blind by human standards, which is why this:—
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apparently works quite well as camouflage for hunters who don’t want to get shot by their buddies.Comment
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So all of these 'accurists' come along and tell us that this colour is correct and the right shade to use on a Friday, but only if you have fish for tea - they then go on to tell us to spray it on when the wind is from the East with the latest shot blasters airbrush set on whisper mode..... And claim that the colour that you are putting on your model has been thoroughly researched with the latest depth perseptive measuing equipment and no other product is as good as theirs!!!! And what comes next is a mystery - you are informed to then spray the model with gloss varnish (which affects the original tone) and after that has dried you lash on layers of filters and washes for a more realistic effect??? So if the original paint was the be all and end all of the colour required, then why the need for all the other by products to tone it down and make it 'pop'???
So the end solution is - go with the nearest colour, then using all the washes and filters along with the pigments, you should arrive at something that looks like the original - or does it???Comment
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I don't know what just happened.
My point was that as humans we are not accurate measuring machines of any nature. Wind chill factor is used by weather forecasters to make everyone slightly more miserable about the weather than they already are. I've worked outside all my life. It feels colder when it's windy. I'm not able to quantify by how much, it's just colder. I don't need a number, just a coat.
Similarly using a meter that is accurate to one billionth of a decibel to tune a set of speakers that are going to be listened to be a human ear that apart from being pretty basic is also attached to a processing unit that has individual preferences is a bit of a waste of time.
So my point was that there may be an accurate scale-effect colour calculation but as has been pointed out by many it's probably not relevant to us mere mortals with our variable eyesight, perception and light sources.
I'm Dan & that is my story.
And yes, in case you're wondering, I'm sat in an hospital car park while herself has a 2 hour appointment & I'm bored !Comment
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Actually gonna watch " A Bridge Too Far" on my internet compatible telephonic communicator. Probably in better definition than my eyes can ever appreciate.Comment
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In my case any shade of 4BO WILL DO !
Joking apart an interesting post.Comment
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