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  • adt70hk
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    • Sep 2019
    • 10482

    #31
    Interesting discussion and interesting article highlighted by Murfie.

    I only know what I've read previously and am no expert and am still working out what colours I do and don't like but in relation to the sightly faded look at distance I have a real life example in front of me right now......

    We're away camping at the moment and there is a mid blue tent about 15-20 metres away.

    Approx. 80-100 metres away is another tent of exactly the same make and model and colour. And it does look slightly paler than the nearer one.

    I've walked past the more distant one on a number of occasions and I don't recall it looking noticeably worn/ faded.

    Currently it's cloudy but not in a dark overcast way of you get my drift.

    ATB.

    Andrew

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    • Tim Marlow
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      • Apr 2018
      • 18994
      • Tim
      • Somerset UK

      #32
      There, in a nutshell Andrew, you have the embodiment of the term “blue remembered hills”. Atmospheric particulates scatter light, reducing the intensity of colour. The more there are between the viewer and the object, the more the intensity is reduced! Blue is least affected, so distant objects take on a bluish cast….hence the phrase immortalised by Houseman.

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      • CarolsHusband
        • Feb 2021
        • 474

        #33
        But is "Scale-effect" the same as" stuff in the distance appears lighter effect" ?

        This is all starting to sound a bit Father Ted...

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        • David Lovell
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          • Apr 2018
          • 2186

          #34
          So ......ORANGE what came first are they called oranges because of the colour or is the colour called because of the fruit, look down the super market diffrent sizes all diffren shades but they are all orange you don't stand there going thats not correct no because there bloody orange , limes their green and come in diffrent sizes and shades but hey yeh green ,lemons banana's from bright to pale but all are yellow ,what ever colour your tank wingy thing if its recognisable for what it is a certain type mk of tank or wingy thing then hey ho job done . Dave

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          • CarolsHusband
            • Feb 2021
            • 474

            #35
            I think we may need a "confused" reaction emoji installed.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Tim Marlow
              The eyes don’t perceive Laurie, the brain does.
              Oh I knew after writing & reading it back that some clever "cloggs" would latch on. Tut Timothy.

              Laurie

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              • Mark1
                • Apr 2021
                • 4156

                #37
                And half of us need glasses so probably can't see bugger all properly anyway :tongue-out3:

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                • The Smythe Meister
                  • Jan 2019
                  • 6248

                  #38
                  Guys,Guys.......GUYS!!
                  ...... you`re ALL missing the obvious here,and i can`t believe i`m the first one to point this out,(great thread BTW Dan:thumb2,
                  Basically,a colour is a colour..... let`s go to what we ALL know here eh?.... it don`t aft to be complicated.......
                  The two Primary colours,(Violet and Green for those of the Hard of Thinking).... are the ultimate base for ANYTHING that you`ll ever need to represent.HOWEVER,if you can`t get what you`re after with doing that,and wanna go back to Playskool shades.......just throw in the 5 colours of the Rainbow.......White,Black,Brown,Grey and Beige OBVIOUSLY :astonished:!
                  .... As for Sizing of things.... "Oh PLEASE"!!:flushed:........
                  ....... I look out of my modelling room window,and see Haytor on Dartmoor..... What do i see?.... Dartmoor miniature Ponies.... and they may be a long way away..... but,"they`re Dartmoor Miniature Ponies" :dizzy::thumb2:.... no big secret...............,just because when i drive up that way they`ve gone,and been replaced by their larger parents doesn`t make Dougal wrong...... C`mon Guys smell the coffee!!
                  Andy

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                  • Guest

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mark1
                    And half of us need glasses so probably can't see bugger all properly anyway :tongue-out3:
                    Yes & with a total cataract on the right eye I can only see red with the left. I used to be able to see blues with the right.

                    The surgeon has assured me he will enable the blues & place in an innovation for yellows. He says if i use both eyes i will get grey.

                    Laurie

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                    • adt70hk
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Sep 2019
                      • 10482

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mark1
                      And half of us need glasses so probably can't see bugger all properly anyway :tongue-out3:
                      Only half....?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!! :surprised: :smiling2:

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                      • Tim Marlow
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 18994
                        • Tim
                        • Somerset UK

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Laurie
                        Yes & with a total cataract on the right eye I can only see red with the left. I used to be able to see blues with the right.

                        The surgeon has assured me he will enable the blues & place in an innovation for yellows. He says if i use both eyes i will get grey.

                        Laurie
                        If I use both eyes I get cross eyed…..
                        PS, only my mother calls me Timothy, and even then only when she’s really hacked off LOL….

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                        • Tim Marlow
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                          • Apr 2018
                          • 18994
                          • Tim
                          • Somerset UK

                          #42
                          Originally posted by David Lovell
                          So ......ORANGE what came first are they called oranges because of the colour or is the colour called because of the fruit, look down the super market diffrent sizes all diffren shades but they are all orange you don't stand there going thats not correct no because there bloody orange , limes their green and come in diffrent sizes and shades but hey yeh green ,lemons banana's from bright to pale but all are yellow ,what ever colour your tank wingy thing if its recognisable for what it is a certain type mk of tank or wingy thing then hey ho job done . Dave
                          Hey Dave, oranges are really blue anyway. The orange colour is just the light bit they don’t like so they reject it. The blue but makes them feel all warm and fuzzy so they take it in!

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                          • Tim Marlow
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                            • Apr 2018
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                            • Tim
                            • Somerset UK

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Mark1
                            And half of us need glasses so probably can't see bugger all properly anyway :tongue-out3:
                            I actually do see slightly different colours with each eye Mark. The right one is definitely biased towards the blue end of the spectrum. My dominant eye is the left one, so I see colours slightly on the warm side :loudly-crying:

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                            • Tim Marlow
                              SMF Supporters
                              • Apr 2018
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                              • Tim
                              • Somerset UK

                              #44
                              Originally posted by adt70hk
                              Only half....?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!! :surprised: :smiling2:
                              Yep, the rest need contact lenses!

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                              • Mark1
                                • Apr 2021
                                • 4156

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                                I actually do see slightly different colours with each eye Mark. The right one is definitely biased towards the blue end of the spectrum. My dominant eye is the left one, so I see colours slightly on the warm side :loudly-crying:
                                Can see fine with my right eye,all gets a bit fuzzy with the left one,left eye was weak and as a kid if I had worn my national health specs like I was told it would be ok, but half blind is better than uncool at that age lol.

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