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  • Ian M
    Administrator
    • Dec 2008
    • 18272
    • Ian
    • Falster, Denmark

    #1

    Stupid laws. Rant warning.

    Just had the 4x4 MoT tested.
    Fail! What!?

    On the inboard face of the front discs is a thin stripe rust at the inner edge of the contact area. Instant fail Due to EU rules that are enforced upon us in DK. This is the second or third time this has happened. So now I need some new discs! which means new pads and mounting kit!

    The best bit? The breaks function was 100%. both stopping power and equal both sides. But nope not good enough. so I also have the pleaseure of a re-test to pay as well.
    Bugger!

    Apparently my rear fog lamp needs changing as well. lol. Wonder how you turn those on an off. (yes I use them that much ).
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  • AlanG
    • Dec 2008
    • 6296

    #2
    Can you not get the discs ground to remove the rust?

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    • Mark1
      • Apr 2021
      • 4156

      #3
      If its not pitted you could try sanding it off.i shaved off the rear door handles of a car once ,mot said they have to be opened from outside the car so i took it for mot with the back windows open,it passed! Cant remember last time i had a car fail, there is some perks to being in the motor trade

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      • Ian M
        Administrator
        • Dec 2008
        • 18272
        • Ian
        • Falster, Denmark

        #4
        Originally posted by AlanG
        Can you not get the discs ground to remove the rust?
        Not a thing in Denmark. If I had a lathe...

        Originally posted by Mark1
        If its not pitted you could try sanding it off.i shaved off the rear door handles of a car once ,mot said they have to be opened from outside the car so i took it for mot with the back windows open,it passed! Cant remember last time i had a car fail, there is some perks to being in the motor trade
        There is a scratch that runs around the disc 1/3 of the way up. So I dont think that would work. Funny thing is the outside face of the disc is perfect! you know the bit you look at once in a while (and before you go to the MoT hall!)


        A Ha! the fog light bulb is fine. I swapped it around with the reversing light. still no for light.
        Checked the fuse. fuse fine. just asked what a switch would cost.... £50! another place said £80. lol.
        me thinks I will just check the tails for the lamp holder....
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        • eddiesolo
          • Jul 2013
          • 11193

          #5
          That is a crapper Ian, very stringent MOT. I can understand the need for MOT's but when the brakes are still 100% efficient then surely a 6 month inspection thereafter would suffice and replace if needed, I take it is is on all four wheels?

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          • BattleshipBob
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            • Apr 2018
            • 6855
            • Bob
            • Cardiff

            #6
            There are brake disc grinders / skimmers, use to have one in a Nissan dealer I worked for. Nissan would only pay for discs under warranty if they could not be skimmed.

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            • KarlW
              • Jul 2020
              • 1522

              #7
              I think there's some things that they pass/fail depending on whether they got lucky last night, fail on coroded break pipes, pass after a wipe with an oily rag.........

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              • Mark1
                • Apr 2021
                • 4156

                #8
                Probably just a corroded conection on the light, easy check with a circuit tester.

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                • stillp
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                  • Nov 2016
                  • 8139
                  • Pete
                  • Rugby

                  #9
                  Originally posted by eddiesolo
                  That is a crapper Ian, very stringent MOT. I can understand the need for MOT's but when the brakes are still 100% efficient then surely a 6 month inspection thereafter would suffice and replace if needed, I take it is is on all four wheels?
                  We don't know how deep the scratch and the rust are though, they'll work fine up until the moment when they don't!
                  Originally posted by Bobthestug
                  There are brake disc grinders / skimmers, use to have one in a Nissan dealer I worked for. Nissan would only pay for discs under warranty if they could not be skimmed.
                  My TR4A failed (when I was living in Cardiff) on "Brake unbalance", which when I questioned it was told there was a mark on the discs where the pads had been sitting for several years. I used a flap wheel on an angle grinder, while spinning the disc, to polish out the mark, and it passed. I never went back to that test station though!
                  Pete

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                  • Ian M
                    Administrator
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 18272
                    • Ian
                    • Falster, Denmark

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mark1
                    Probably just a corroded conection on the light, easy check with a circuit tester.
                    Nope. All connections are squeaky clean and tight! circuit tester shows a good circuit: in the bulb, so that's good. the wire from the bulb holder to the con block also a good circuit.
                    If I could find out how to get the bl**dy switch out I would test that as well. But getting it out is proving to be the hard part.
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                    • rickoshea52
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 4076
                      • Rick

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Ian M
                      Just had the 4x4 MoT tested.
                      Fail! What!?

                      On the inboard face of the front discs is a thin stripe rust at the inner edge of the contact area. Instant fail Due to EU rules that are enforced upon us in DK. This is the second or third time this has happened. So now I need some new discs! which means new pads and mounting kit!

                      The best bit? The breaks function was 100%. both stopping power and equal both sides. But nope not good enough. so I also have the pleaseure of a re-test to pay as well.
                      Bugger!

                      Apparently my rear fog lamp needs changing as well. lol. Wonder how you turn those on an off. (yes I use them that much ).
                      I’ll be in CPH October to remove corrosion from a landing gear, can you wait that long!!?
                      On the bench: Airfix 1/48 Sea King HC4, Revell 1/24 Trabant.
                      Coming soon: Airfix 1/72 Phantom FGR2.
                      Just finished: Airfix 1/48 Stuka & Airfix 1/72 Sea King HC4.

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                      • stillp
                        SMF Supporters
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 8139
                        • Pete
                        • Rugby

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Ian M
                        Nope. All connections are squeaky clean and tight! circuit tester shows a good circuit: in the bulb, so that's good. the wire from the bulb holder to the con block also a good circuit.
                        If I could find out how to get the bl**dy switch out I would test that as well. But getting it out is proving to be the hard part.
                        Is the earth connection good?
                        Pete

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                        • The Smythe Meister
                          • Jan 2019
                          • 6248

                          #13
                          Straight bananas and irregular potatoes banned.....
                          ... Just so glad I voted "Out"...

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                          • Ian M
                            Administrator
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 18272
                            • Ian
                            • Falster, Denmark

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stillp
                            Is the earth connection good?
                            Pete
                            There is an earth wire clean and tight no corrosion...
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                            Bismarck

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                            • Graeme C.
                              • Apr 2018
                              • 1628
                              • Graeme
                              • UK

                              #15
                              Usually a bad earth causes the problem, a circuit tester will find it.
                              A friend once had his Land Rover failed for 'handbrake cables to rear brake drums not present'. It had disc brakes & a transmission handbrake. Tester was not amused when he parked it on a slope with the engine running & got out. Probably even less so when he showed him the handbrake drum on the back of the gear/transfer box.

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