People???

[stillp]

I had a boiler replaced by a local guy who'd just set up his business (He'd previously been the QA Manager for a major boiler manufacturer so hardly a cowboy.) He asked me to drive him to the local tip with the old boiler to save the fee for taking his van - unfortunately for him one of the staff there recognised him, and he was blacklisted - barred from using the local tip, so he had to drive to the next town to use their tip (and pay their fee). That helped the environment didn't it!
Pete

[rtfoe]

I live in a developing country so the mindset of garbage disposal is still in the WIP process. Any vacant piece of land is a magnet for garbage.
Sometimes it's scary to peer over a boarded up fence.

Cheers,
Wabble

[Tim Marlow]

I had a boiler replaced by a local guy who'd just set up his business (He'd previously been the QA Manager for a major boiler manufacturer so hardly a cowboy.) He asked me to drive him to the local tip with the old boiler to save the fee for taking his van - unfortunately for him one of the staff there recognised him, and he was blacklisted - barred from using the local tip, so he had to drive to the next town to use their tip (and pay their fee). That helped the environment didn't it!
Pete

Point is Pete, he should have factored the disposal cost into your job and paid properly. Wouldn’t have got blacklisted then would he :rolling:

[dave]

I get the impression this is a bit of an epidemic in the UK … at least from some TV shows I’ve seen about it, flytippers can be extremely bold over there.

The phenomenon is not unheard-of in the Netherlands, but it’s usually only very small scale. Except, of course, when it’s this kind:

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Be glad it’s just plaster and carpets you found :sad:

That was the illegal drug lab waste, if I remember.

[Guest]

Not the, unfortunately, but some. These are just three pictures I came across when searching for photos of drug lab waste (mostly from XTC and crystal meth production, AFAIK) being dumped — that’s our flytipping epidemic.

[Airborne01]

I took an old toilet to our local 'refuse recycling engineering centre of excellence' or whatever it's called. I'm sure it was just the 'tip' when I was a kid. Anyway, they charged me £3.00 to dispose of the old toilet. Gone are the days of spending a penny.

That really is crap!
Steve

[stillp]

Point is Pete, he should have factored the disposal cost into your job and paid properly. Wouldn’t have got blacklisted then would he :rolling:

True, but if he hadn't been in my car I could have chucked it for nothing. Doesn't seem logical.
Pete

[Tim Marlow]

True, but if he hadn't been in my car I could have chucked it for nothing. Doesn't seem logical.
Pete

The facility is run by the council for domestic waste disposal Pete. They aren’t saying he can’t use it, just that he has to pay a nominal fee for the disposal of the extra waste a commercial enterprise will generate. Not really free for us though is it. It’s paid for by our rates. If you think about it, trying to get around the rules like that is a bit like him stuffing it in your home waste bin without permission.

To be completely honest, I’m not sure I’d be happy to employ a tradesman that tried to circumvent waste disposal rules like that. After all, if he isn’t willing to follow those, what other installation and building regs is he playing fast and loose with?

[Nicko]

Nice to see the Scram out on the backroads. Shame about the rubbish. I hate having to get past the Gestapo at the tip just to throw my rubbish away.

Meantime, this was the scene in Stockholm yesterday. Apparently students were graduating and this is tradition....



Nick

[stillp]

The facility is run by the council for domestic waste disposal Pete. They aren’t saying he can’t use it, just that he has to pay a nominal fee for the disposal of the extra waste a commercial enterprise will generate. Not really free for us though is it. It’s paid for by our rates. If you think about it, trying to get around the rules like that is a bit like him stuffing it in your home waste bin without permission.

To be completely honest, I’m not sure I’d be happy to employ a tradesman that tried to circumvent waste disposal rules like that. After all, if he isn’t willing to follow those, what other installation and building regs is he playing fast and loose with?

Not quite Tim, the facility is run for waste disposal, wherever it comes from. It seems illogical that waste delivered to the tip in a private car can be tipped for nothing, but the same waste in a work van attracts a charge. If he'd just left the old boiler at my house I'd have taken it to the tip anyway, so he was just helping me to carry it from the car.
They did actually say he can't use that tip - I don't know for how long.
I don't think he was ignoring the regs, since there's no regulation that I'm aware of that states he has to remove the waste anyway.
Pete

[Tim Marlow]

Not quite Tim, the facility is run for waste disposal, wherever it comes from. It seems illogical that waste delivered to the tip in a private car can be tipped for nothing, but the same waste in a work van attracts a charge. If he'd just left the old boiler at my house I'd have taken it to the tip anyway, so he was just helping me to carry it from the car.
They did actually say he can't use that tip - I don't know for how long.
I don't think he was ignoring the regs, since there's no regulation that I'm aware of that states he has to remove the waste anyway.
Pete

It’s run for domestic waste disposal though Pete, at least, our local one is. It says it on the gate……..
If it was just for any “waste” you’d probably get large companies like Kwik Fit dumping their industrial waste there. They have to pay for waste disposal, so why shouldn’t he? It is only a question of scale, after all. Also it sounds like he’d been caught before if he got banned this time.
As to regs on waste disposal, I meant disposal of the waste itself, not a regulation saying he has to take it away. That is part of the agreed contract between the two of you stated on the scope of works and detailed in the quote. I’ve never personally had a quote that doesn’t include a clause for leaving the site tidy after the work is complete and the removal of all waste generated. I’ve never had to ask for it to be added, it’s just “there”.
Still, let’s leave it at that eh…….

[Waspie]

Just had a look at our 'tips' web site. NO commercial waste at all. Household waste only. So they have changed that in the past year. They have even limited bulk drops of DIYers to six loads a month.
As I mentioned earlier, it seems every council operate independently. I know Devon are very pro active on the recycling front, even more so that here in Dorset.

[stona]

I used to work at the local recycling centre, people used to tip 100m from the gate...?! You can't make it up!

Sadly it still happens. I saw loads fly-tipped within a few hundred yards of the Tyseley recycling centre (Birmingham) where I was going to dispose of a load of garden waste (don't ask!).