We must not forget our Queen in this also, if the defence are struggleing why on earth should she scrap the QE2 and have a new ship built, we are expected to make sacrifices, what makes her any different, afterall is said, they are all her ships and forces. She is no better than the goverment she owns. Wasting money on a ship she never sets foot on.
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Here's one what about halfing the pay packets of the likes of Cameron and his monkeys and put their money into the Defence and if they dont go to the frontline stop their wages. What happens if there is another Iranian Embassy siege the hooligans from Hereford wont be able to storm it a second time as I've heard that they are goin g to be effected by the cuts as well. :asshole:
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Sorry to say this against the trend of people on here but seeing it from my side of the story from when i left 3 years ago i can honestly say that the amount of wastage within the armed forces and other governmental departments is massive. Having seen Tornado crews take aircraft away to other countries on 'navigational exercises' when in reality all they were doing is going away for a jolly to places like Madrid or a mother's birthday party in N. Ireland. Trip to Ireland and back is at least 14 tons of fuel...yes that's right i did say 14 tons. So it's massive wastage like this that is putting a drain on our economy and monies. That's not including the engineering hours and costs involved.
I am saddened at the loss of bases like Kinloss but to be honest it is also the fault of companies like Bae for not getting the MR4A up and flying sooner and when they did actually get it flying it had so many design flaws and problems in it they just through more public money at it.
On a side note and this is nothing personal but i do find it funny watching my local tv station up here in Morayshire and seeing local people/councillors all saying how much they love the RAF being here and how much they are part of the 'community' etc etc. Shame they don't seem to say that sort of thing when the bases weren't under threat. Instead they openly said how much they disliked us being there...stealing jobs, taking our women etc etc. The smiling knife has turned on them and they don't like it.Comment
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So let me get this right.
Monday - The government announces some wierd list of potenial risks to the country, including terrorists etc etc
Tuesday - The government announces plans to scrap the Ark Royal and the Harrier.
Ok, so they are building 2 new aircraft carriers. Im assuming there may be some aircraft to go on this carrier, alhough with our government I wouldnt be surprised if they just built wooden aircraft to make it look like we have a deterrent (Afterall, the cardboard policemen in the shops has apparantly reduced crime, so why not extend that to aircraft, heck why stop there, lets hqve a cardboard army and air force too)
What really really bugs me is that the country is skint due to the banks bailout yet the bankers continue to get their millions in bonuses while the men and women of the armed forces, who get paid so little for the job they do, are having to buy their own equipment.
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The Harrier was supposed to be replaced by the JSF ( Joint Strike Fighter) and be already in service but due to delays and, one of the actual delays being totally laughable, it still isn't coming into service for the forseeable future.Originally posted by \Comment
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And it may not even work.Originally posted by \
Australian press reported on leaks from a classified computer wargame, Pacific Vision, conducted at Hickam AFB. According to Australian reports. JSFs in combat with Su-35s were “clubbed like baby seals”.
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Steve the 'designers' of the JSF designed it to take bombs up to the weight of 1000lb. Great.....the RAF use 2000lb LGBs lmaoComment
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