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    #1

    If ever this forum has a thread like this.....

    I have just been nosing around on a well respected British Modelling (I will say no more) forum and found a discussion regarding the new Airfix Mig15. Well, to be fair, two discussions. One is where loads of people are quoting what they have heard about the inaccuracy of this kit and the other, where a guy has posted a picture of his monitor with a side view of the said Mig15 and the kit fuselage half held up against it in an attempt to give the Airfix kit a bit of credibility as the shape looks good.

    This brought down posts saying how the inaccuracy brought about by the perspective of the photo of the real thing negates it as a reference to disprove alleged variation from the real shape as depicted by the kit.

    Fascinating; but the doom and gloom that the production of this quite nice looking kit by Airfix has wrought upon us modellers and conning us out of our hard earned cash if we bought such a travesty of inaccurate kits has shook the world.....

    Can I say that if ever there is a thread opened and discussed to this length about alleged inaccuracy of a kit, I will resign from it.

    I know that a few people on here frequent this other forum and may not take kindly to what I have said but this has to be the worst attempt at assassination of a kit by so many people who have never even bought it never mind built it that it makes my blood boil to see what damage a few armchair rivet counters can do to the reputation of a kit manufacturer based purely on hearsay.

    OK, the kit may not be perfect, breaking news rivet counters, none of them are so find a new hobby.

    My apologies, rant over.
  • stona
    • Jul 2008
    • 9889

    #2
    I don't know anything about aircraft powered by vacuum cleaners but I'm off to have a read of the thread in question. I'm not Sherlock Holmes,but I've got an idea where it will be lol.

    Cheers

    Steve

    At least some of the posters didn't take it too seriously! They are arguing about something that costs less than a decent bottle of wine. A discusion like that might just drive you to drink.I might buy and BUILD one just for the hell of it . I have the advantage of neither knowing nor caring what the correct shape is or isn't or might be anyway lol.

    Steve

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    • Guest

      #3
      I agree with you Graham and Steve,it is only a model representing an aircraft. If they wanted a model which is accurate in every detail would they spend £1000s buying it. I think not.

      Tony..

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      • Guest

        #4
        That is why I come here for all my model related information and tips!

        This is the friendliest model place I know, where a sense of humour is still an asset and not a hindrance.

        In defence of the other forum (and I don't know what it is), a lot of people just like to have a moan, and don't really mean anything by it!

        It is saddening though, as it indicates how similar to sheep a lot of us are!

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        • AlanG
          • Dec 2008
          • 6296

          #5
          I know exactly which forum you are on about Graham and that is the main reason i'm on this forum. I know some people want super accuracy from a model but i know my skills aren't that good to be that accurate. If it looks like what i'm trying to build and i've enjoyed making it then that's good enough for me.

          I've said this many times before ut it still rings true. This is the friendliest forum i've been on

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          • stona
            • Jul 2008
            • 9889

            #6
            Originally posted by \
            If it looks like what i'm trying to build and i've enjoyed making it then that's good enough for me.
            I couldn't put it better than that. It's supposed to be fun for heaven's sake!

            Cheers

            Steve

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            • Guest

              #7
              Hear hear.

              I would, however, like to point out the innaccuracy of your post Graham, according to all the advertising prior to it's posting it was going to be perfectly rectangular in shape and contain no uppercase letters, (or raised panel lines), clearly this is not the case as it's roughly rectangular at best and I can see at least one capital letter and a couple of panel lines and I feel cheated!

              To prove otherwise you must post a picture of your original post on your monitor at the side of your monitor as a comparative gesture.

              :lol

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              • Guest

                #8
                Nooo, I disagree! :grinball1:I think we should all study the geometric science of perspective and correct placement of vanishing points when comparing real objects and photographs as well as the proper use of projective media such as digital computer monitors in order to determine micrometric accuracy of scale applied to our models in order to prepare ourselves for such discussions in the future or at least not to wake up in the middle of the night screaming of terror because we just realised that all our hundreds of models already built might just be inaccurate. (did I forget to mention rivets anywhere?) But hey, in this case we might just be in the wrong forum, what a relief we don't have to rethink the whole nature of our beloved hobby. I think I should just stick to this side of the fence (meaning this awesome forum) where the real fun really is. Cheers guys, I am going after that bottle of wine.

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                • Guest

                  #9
                  I actually feel sorry for the guy who posted the monitor pic, he was trying to show that it was near enough. Don't know why but the thread just wound me up, must be getting a bit touch as Christmas looms.....

                  Mike, I have just two words for you.... Watch it :laughing:

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                  • Ian M
                    Administrator
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 18272
                    • Ian
                    • Falster, Denmark

                    #10
                    I feel sorry for the poor bugers that dont have any thing better to do than sit and count rivets all bloody day! What a boring hobby. They might as well take up trainspotting!

                    In all honesty what do they expect for a fiver! If we were talking big money, £75 up then ok they could have a moan but an open assasination for all to see. bad style.

                    I saw the model in question and I thought it looked rather good. But then I would not know how good or bad a facimile it is having never seen a REAL one.
                    Group builds

                    Bismarck

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                    • Guest

                      #11
                      I paid a decent amount of money for my trumpeter 1/24 fw190 and all i ever read about it is how inaccurate it is in parts, news flash I DON'T CARE, to me the detail is very good and as long as it looks like an FW 190 then that suits me fine. However to even have ago at a kit when you have never even seen the box let alone the kit then that take rivet counting to a new level and iam soooooooo glad this forum is not like that.

                      scott

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                      • yak face
                        Moderator
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 14013
                        • Tony
                        • Sheffield

                        #12
                        Ive got to wholeheartedly agree with all the above points and heres a couple more to add, the old airfix mig 15 which had been around since the early 60's was always getting stick every time they re-issued it for being basic and poor fitting (they probably moaned about the accuracy as well!) so when it was announced airfix were making a new tooling ,they should be praised for their efforts but what happens?- probably the same set of whingers that moaned about the old one are moaning about the new one!!It seems to me that these people will never be happy with any kit , especially one so expensive!!! (£5!!!!) Im with everyone else on here ,in that if it looks right ,then it probably is , or near enough for a leisure pastime. A good example is the trumpeter mig 17 i did a while back. This kit had a lot of obvious inaccuracies, ie. ones that stood out a mile but i just corrected them from looking at photos until it looked about right, no rivet counting or scale measuring, im not bothered if its a scale foot out in wingspan ,it looks right enough to me. Im just so glad that our forum is of the right frame of mind and regards the hobby as a fun activity , something to ease stress not cause it!! tony

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