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[AlanG]

It would be nice if those who reported him would come forward and tell us why they did it, as I don't want to "upset" them by posting anything on their threads...Andy...

Andy there is no need to go down this route. It would become a 'witch hunt' of sorts and this is not what this forum is about. Colin has kindly come forward to put his point of view across. Others may not be willing to, as is their right.

i have now seen the Pm that was sent to Simon and to be honest it was in my opinion, written roughly how i would of handle the request. Simon for whatever reason has decided to delete his posts and not take part in any further discussion.

As i have said earlier. Banter is acceptable up to a point. When you get the original posters of a thread contacting admin regarding how their thread has now become a chit chat thread then we as admin are obliged to act. It is not something we like nor look to do. But we have to on occasions.

[rickoshea52]

Paul. Chit chat is ok in moderation. But there were one or two threads where the original topic was totally lost and then 3/4 of the remaining thread was taken up by 'chatter'.When people start complaining to admins about their threads being taken over by chit chat then we are obliged to ask the concerning person to calm it down a little. it appears that Si wasn't able to accept that and has left.

At the end of the day it is up to the OP (original poster) to say whether their thread has served it's purpose etc etc. As admins we can always lock it to stop further comments being added. But i for one don't want to go down that route as i want this forum to remain a friendly helpful place where we can come to chill and talk about our hobby.

You just said it in your first and last sentence, Al. Chit chat is ok but this forum is, for me, a place to talk about modelling with other modellers.

If it's something else you're after there's Spacebook and Poutube.....or the pub.

[Guest]

Perhaps, just a suggestion but maybe some sort of guidelines could be given as to what is too much unnecessary chatter. Just as an example, I've seen build threads started, and comments made along the lines of "I'll grab my popcorn and pull up a chair", which then produces a string of posts about various food/seating arrangements. I can see both sides on this matter, but do think it is a shame Si felt he had to leave us. Would the forum without everyones individual sense of humour be better, personally I think not.

Cheers, Andrew

[PaulTRose]

. Unfortunately there is an unwritten etiquette regarding forum use to which was crossed.

so if its unwritten how the hell do you know if you have broken it????

[Andy2035]

You just said it in your first and last sentence, Al. Chit chat is ok but this forum is, for me, a place to talk about modelling with other modellers.If it's something else you're after there's Spacebook and Poutube.....or the pub.

Hi Rick,

I am one of those people who does live alone, I don't go out, plus, I don't have any friends in my home town, so coming in here used to be fun as it was the best of both worlds and not just another one of those modelling only places which I have seen and disliked, I also don't really do the Facebook thing, so I guess I was wrong in thinking that here was a special place...

Andy...

[Guest]

so if its unwritten how the hell do you know if you have broken it????

I can see what you did there:-)

just a choice term of words Paul, the theory is if there's a chat thread then that's basically what it's for .... . To leave the build threads free of chat, in fact what Ian said it was to be used for when it was introduced.

[Alan 45]

Well it's started ! The us and them , this happens on all forums and it will get worse it won't be long before poster will criticise builds , this will happen due to people reporting others and banding together to report someone , this in turn will lead to others disliking them and little snipes will be made.

Be fore warned people we are heading down a slippery slope and this will turn into an elitist club .

[AlanG]

Well it's started ! The us and them , this happens on all forums and it will get worse it won't be long before poster will criticise builds , this will happen due to people reporting others and banding together to report someone , this in turn will lead to others disliking them and little snipes will be made. Be fore warned people we are heading down a slippery slope and this will turn into an elitist club .

Not if John and the admin team have anything to do with it. I like to think i speak for the majority here and say that we'd all like to keep this forum the friendliest place to come for all our model chat. Personally i will not tollerate bashing of people's builds. Everyone has different skill sets and should be encouraged to show their work on here free from any negative comments.

I do however ask for positive/pro-active feedback on my builds. It is the only way i am going to progress with y skills and techniques.

[Alan 45]

Not if John and the admin team have anything to do with it. I like to think i speak for the majority here and say that we'd all like to keep this forum the friendliest place to come for all our model chat. Personally i will not tollerate bashing of people's builds. Everyone has different skill sets and should be encouraged to show their work on here free from any negative comments.I do however ask for positive/pro-active feedback on my builds. It is the only way i am going to progress with y skills and techniques.

The thing is it's already happened , this has already sowed the seeds of discontent , posters are very angry that someone has been reported for nothing more than having a personality and being sociable , some people have shown that they may not be as friendly as they appear by banding together and then reporting it.

[papa 695]

I really like this forum the people on it and the banter that goes' with it. I know sometimes there is some banter not relevant to the post involved but just friendly and funny, if I don't want to read it I just skip past to the next post.

[AlanG]

Alan. I cannot say who hs PM'd admin regarding a this situation as that is the very nature of a PM. But if you re-read Colin's post you'll see that there was diologue in PM between the parties before admin had been involved. Obviously the diologue between the two parties involved was not resolved and so admin stepped in.

Please don't let this thread become divisive and a witch hunt.

I have said before and will say again. From my own point of view, some banter/chit chat/ call it what you like, should be expected. But there have been a few threads (and no i cannot name them as i cannot remember) that have gone way off topic and are nothing to do with the OP topic.

I wish this forum to remain a friendly helpful place to come. This is the most friendliest forum i know of and cannot recall this happening on here before

[Alan 45]

Al it is not me intention to point fingers or accuse anyone I'm trying to point out that this sort of thing can get worse , people have already stated that they will stop all irrelevant posting and they feel it's not as friendly as they thought.

Thing is some won't walk away like simon has they will stay and get their own back this is what happens in all walks of life

[Andy2035]

I wish this forum to remain a friendly helpful place to come. This is the most friendliest forum i know of and cannot recall this happening on here before

I USED to think the same, but now...

[Guest]

I think this is all getting a bit out of proportion now and we should sit back and objectively look at what has happened. I agree that chit chat can get in the way of peoples serious build threads, who may feel aggrieved that their serious posts are being watered down. I also agree that chit chat is part of this forum and is what helps to keep this the friendliest place I have ever been a part of and what gives us a warm and inviting atmosphere whereby members can feel free to say what they want. In this case some members, unknown to me have voiced concerns that sometimes the chit chat can get a bit out of hand, fair point. I don't think this was telling tales out of school, I don't think it was underhanded and I don't think it indicates any hidden agenda. I think it was simply raising a concern and asking the moderator in question to say something.

I firmly believe that nothing is broken here, nothing needs to be changed and nothing of an underhanded nature is going on. I will, for one, not sit back and see this forum degenerate into the childish arguing that so often brings other forums down. I hope we can simply move on from this in the knowledge that things could have perhaps been done slightly more tactfully and with a bit more care and understanding and I think the moderating team have a few things to learn from this issue. I hope meanwhile everyone will continue to see this forum in the positive manner that I have enjoyed being a part of for many years and accept that while mistakes may have been made there has been no malicious intent.

[Guest]

hey hey people this is still the friendliest forum on the web,and if people digress from the build topic then slapped wrists must be dished out,especially from the OP,because it is the build we should be talking about,if you have banter with the poster then they will continue with it or ignore it thats what i do lol

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