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  • Ian M
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    • Dec 2008
    • 18284
    • Ian
    • Falster, Denmark

    #76
    I think that part of the issue with sink marks it due to the thickness of the plastic. Typical places where you can observe this is in thicker parts, such as propeller blades. Even on a 1/48 scale and some 1/72 there is often a dimple where the part is thickest. Another typical area is location pins and moulded detail on the reverse.

    As said plastics shrink as they harden off. Thicker the plastic the more it will shrink. Solid parts will always be affected by this. The only real solution from the manufacturing side is to either find another material that can be used, or stop making solid parts.... I feel the work involved on building prop blades out of two halves would be much worse than a smear of filler and a sanding stick.

    In a kit like this, as Barry has pointed out the tolerances are +- a flies tadger. Sand just a tiny bit to much off some parts and it will bite you in the bum at some point. When all the parts fit so snugly, it will be almost impossible not to have a problem at some point or the other.

    Ian M
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    Bismarck

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    • BarryW
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      • Jul 2011
      • 6053

      #77
      It's coming on well. Visible progress is limited because I am at that stage of preparing for the primer.

      Sub assemblies coming together.

      [ATTACH]99087.IPB[/ATTACH]


      [ATTACH]99088.IPB[/ATTACH]


      Masking is progressing. I nearly changed my original plan to mask the pit with a spare transparency due to how it sits on the plane but decided to go ahead anyway as using the product pictured I can remove and refit it and consequently can touch up with just a little localised masking.

      [ATTACH]99089.IPB[/ATTACH]


      [ATTACH]99090.IPB[/ATTACH]


      [ATTACH]99091.IPB[/ATTACH]


      It really is starting to look like a Tiffy. I am using kitchen roll and Tamiya tape for masking plus the Gunze liquid mask as well as the canopy and will also eventually mask the main wheel wells with the otherwise unused 'wheels up' covers.

      My aim is to get the first primer coat on by Saturday morning so it will have a good 48 hours to cure before I get another aession on Monday evening when I will be checking for blemishes and dealing with them.









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      • BarryW
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        • Jul 2011
        • 6053

        #78
        A question....

        Does anyone know how the rocket tails looked when they were plugged in?

        I have been trawling through pics and cannot find a clear shot of this. You know me, I like to be different and most builds have the tails hanging so I want them shown plugged in, just before going on a mission. My plan is to scratch them with stretched sprue.

        One thing I did notice, my decision to have the flaps up is vindicated by the photos..... I have drooped the ailerons a little though.

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        • Ian M
          Administrator
          • Dec 2008
          • 18284
          • Ian
          • Falster, Denmark

          #79
          Looking very much the part. One thing though if I may. Those ailerons, should they not be one up one down. If they are both down your pilot is going to have his work cut out rolling and banking...

          Ian M
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          Bismarck

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          • Vaughan
            • Apr 2011
            • 3199

            #80
            Hi Barry this is the only photo I could find hope it's some help

            [ATTACH]99099.IPB[/ATTACH]


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            • BarryW
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              • Jul 2011
              • 6053

              #81
              Ian - would they be like that on the ground, rather than just drooped as I have done them?

              Vaughan - many thanks for this

              I found a similar picture that was a lot less clear than the one you found.

              It seems to me that the lead goes from the middle of the rocket to a socket on the rail but I just cannot make out where it fits on the rail - perhaps a little creative interpretation there. Also just thought that lead wire might work better than stretched sprue.

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              • BarryW
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                • Jul 2011
                • 6053

                #82
                Further to above - thanks Ian

                Having had another look at photos I can only see one pic of the aircraft with drooped ailerons and on that I could only make out one wing... consequently I will play safe and refix them straight. I had concerns anyway about them drooping a bit too much.

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                • stona
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 9889

                  #83
                  You can pose your model with one aileron up and one down (as Ian pointed out) but at 1/24 scale I would then push the control column over the relevant way. Parked aircraft often had control locks fitted (don't know about the Typhoon specifically) which would tend to centre the controls.

                  Flaps were usually retracted after landing to prevent damage during taxying, particularly on 'unmade' airfields.

                  Cheers

                  Steve

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                  • Dave W
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 4713

                    #84
                    Originally posted by \
                    Ian - would they be like that on the ground, rather than just drooped as I have done them?Vaughan - many thanks for this

                    I found a similar picture that was a lot less clear than the one you found.

                    It seems to me that the lead goes from the middle of the rocket to a socket on the rail but I just cannot make out where it fits on the rail - perhaps a little creative interpretation there. Also just thought that lead wire might work better than stretched sprue.
                    The lead for the rockets was left disconnected and hanging down when the aircraft was parked.I believe they were only connected at the last minute as there were incidents where rockets fired off with no one near the aircraft.So you could connect one end to the rocket and leave the other hanging down.

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                    • stona
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 9889

                      #85
                      Originally posted by \
                      The lead for the rockets was left disconnected and hanging down when the aircraft was parked.I believe they were only connected at the last minute....So you could connect one end to the rocket and leave the other hanging down.
                      Like this:

                      [ATTACH]99129.IPB[/ATTACH]


                      Cheers

                      Steve

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                      • BarryW
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                        • Jul 2011
                        • 6053

                        #86
                        [ATTACH]99188.IPB[/ATTACH]

                        I have just finished for the weekend and will return to the model Monday evening. As you can see the canopy is masked ready. I am also working on the rockets still with Mr Surfacer 500 and Mr Dissolved Putty.
                        The main job today was to prime the aircraft. I decided to use Vallejo Black Primer as this will eventually be part of my preshading process. As it is such a big model I did it in two stages a couple of hours apart, bottom first. My initial impression is that there will not be many flaws to treat. Amazing, even around where I did most sanding and rescribing I could see no issues. I won't know for sure until Monday after it has cured, when I will take a closer look. So far so good.

                        [ATTACH]99189.IPB[/ATTACH]




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                        • Vaughan
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 3199

                          #87
                          Looking good Barry.

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                          • BarryW
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                            • Jul 2011
                            • 6053

                            #88
                            Thanks Vaughan

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                            • Ian M
                              Administrator
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 18284
                              • Ian
                              • Falster, Denmark

                              #89
                              That looks kinda mean in black....

                              Ian M
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                              Bismarck

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                              • flyjoe180
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                                • Jan 2012
                                • 12631
                                • Joe
                                • Earth

                                #90
                                Lovely work so far Barry. It does look mean in that black coat, but it's looking more like a Typhoon now.

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