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  • Tim Marlow
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    • Apr 2018
    • 19027
    • Tim
    • Somerset UK

    #16
    I’ll keep an eye on this as well John. Looks interesting, if a tad complicated. Mind you, the basic box should be OK, so the rest is just gingerbread and could probably be worked around if it is too difficult.

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    • Guest

      #17
      Originally posted by Mark1
      I'm in, if you've got the patience to get it finished it'll look great,them tracks are why my t55 isn't finished can't seem to find the enthusiasm to start putting the near 700 pieces of them together!:confounded:
      Morning Mark, I've only glanced at those tracks as many know I hate normal link things so any thing can happen. If I can do it then so can you, perhaps we should carry on together.

      Originally posted by minitnkr
      Looks a challenge Dzohn. Awful bunch'o'parts for a simple tractor.
      Quite agree Paul I was expecting some sort of made up body, but no, a load of small section, oh well in for a pound as we say. Remember I can always end up a wreak if I find it too hard.:nerd:.

      Originally posted by Andy T
      I'll follow along if I may John. It's a kit I've been looking at, but those tracks are a definite nope for me.
      Welcome Andy, please do, don't expect you'll lean anything other than an exercise in how not too, mind you the Rabble haven't woken up yet with the normal banter, this alone is always worth a look in.


      Originally posted by Tim Marlow
      I’ll keep an eye on this as well John. Looks interesting, if a tad complicated. Mind you, the basic box should be OK, so the rest is just gingerbread and could probably be worked around if it is too difficult.
      Morning Tim, wet here so a day inside, might even get some modelling done. Yes please keep an eye on this any advice always welcome.

      Right battle is about to commence, but first another wash on those trunks.

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      • adt70hk
        SMF Supporters
        • Sep 2019
        • 10503

        #18
        John

        I'm be joining the party of have no objection.

        The tracks look like the Bronco ones I did on Pz II, in that they simply click together. Is that right? If so, I found that they went together and articulated surprisingly well but that if put under any kind of tension they came apart.

        In the end I lay a length of 6mm making tape across the whole length, applied some TET to each join and wrapped it around the tracks, and then let it set. It either very well that way.

        Just a thought.

        Andrew

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        • Dave Ward
          • Apr 2018
          • 10549

          #19
          The running gear is the same as the T-70 & T-80 from MiniArt - and a lengthened chassis SU-76 - All use the same individual link tracks, not difficult, just mind numbingly boring. My Ya-12 was never completed and is now land fill!
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          This is from a T-80. I made up link & length runs for the tracks, letting some of them partly dry before forming them around the idlers/sprockets. Not complicated - just tedious!
          Dave

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          • Mark1
            • Apr 2021
            • 4156

            #20
            Originally posted by Dave Ward
            The running gear is the same as the T-70 & T-80 from MiniArt - and a lengthened chassis SU-76 - All use the same individual link tracks, not difficult, just mind numbingly boring. My Ya-12 was never completed and is now land fill!
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            This is from a T-80. I made up link & length runs for the tracks, letting some of them partly dry before forming them around the idlers/sprockets. Not complicated - just tedious!
            Dave
            The ones I've got to do have two pins that push in either side of each link so they can articulate.

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            • Neil Merryweather
              • Dec 2018
              • 5274
              • London

              #21
              I'm in John
              Who's i/c biscuits? HobNob for me please!

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              • scottie3158
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 14426
                • Paul
                • Holbeach

                #22
                John,
                I'm in mate front and centre please, can I have Ron's cake if he doesn't want it?

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                • minitnkr
                  SMF Supporters
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 7652
                  • Paul
                  • Dayton, OH USA

                  #23
                  I'd bring my Nespresso, but it's a bit far to carry.

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                  • adt70hk
                    SMF Supporters
                    • Sep 2019
                    • 10503

                    #24
                    Originally posted by minitnkr
                    I'd bring my Nespresso, but it's a bit far to carry.
                    It's ok, I have one!!! Plus a load of capsules...

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                    • Lee Drennen
                      SMF Supporters
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 7711

                      #25
                      John seated by Andy with my tea cup out for Yorkshire tea

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by adt70hk
                        John

                        I'm be joining the party of have no objection.

                        The tracks look like the Bronco ones I did on Pz II, in that they simply click together. Is that right? If so, I found that they went together and articulated surprisingly well but that if put under any kind of tension they came apart.

                        In the end I lay a length of 6mm making tape across the whole length, applied some TET to each join and wrapped it around the tracks, and then let it set. It either very well that way.

                        Just a thought.

                        Andrew
                        Welcome Andrew, just push Steve along a bit.Looked at the tracks and made a start, well 6 links , and that is enough:smiling3: -- for now.

                        Originally posted by Dave Ward
                        The running gear is the same as the T-70 & T-80 from MiniArt - and a lengthened chassis SU-76 - All use the same individual link tracks, not difficult, just mind numbingly boring. My Ya-12 was never completed and is now land fill!
                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]n1153854[/ATTACH]
                        This is from a T-80. I made up link & length runs for the tracks, letting some of them partly dry before forming them around the idlers/sprockets. Not complicated - just tedious!
                        Dave
                        Thanks Dave, I've got a section of ally bar like that when you mentioned it some time ago, will get it out. So will make it easier as Iv'e started but was doing them the other way up.:thumb2:

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                        • Guest

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Mark1
                          The ones I've got to do have two pins that push in either side of each link so they can articulate.
                          Mark mine do , but they don't stay in place at all, so its gluing as we go.

                          Originally posted by Lee Drennen
                          John seated by Andy with my tea cup out for Yorkshire tea
                          Lee your supposed to be on Yorkshire Tea duty ! I'm relying on you to keep the Rabble calm.


                          Originally posted by Neil Merryweather
                          I'm in John
                          Who's i/c biscuits? HobNob for me please!
                          Evening Neil, see Si Benson he's in charge of all eatables .

                          Originally posted by scottie3158
                          John,
                          I'm in mate front and centre please, can I have Ron's cake if he doesn't want it?
                          Welcome Paul. Certainty but don't hang about or Steve will have it.

                          Originally posted by minitnkr
                          I'd bring my Nespresso, but it's a bit far to carry.
                          Never mind Paul the idea was kind, but I see Andrew has brought his so all's well.

                          Well the hall is becoming full, the 2 Meter rule is not being used as most of us have had both Jabs and as this is virtual were quite safe.

                          Had quick look at those tracks, of course I started then the other way up, certainly don't snap or click together, reading Dave's post I'll get out the ally bar and do them the other way up.

                          Started on the engine, now as I'm going to build all of it I'm certainly not closing the bonnet , so a lot of it will be on show. In the past I've used the German mechanics set , so might do this again.

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                          This was the start, just 2 parts glued together, then what I consider to be a complete waste of time 2 of the smallest PE parts PE 15 ON THE DRAWING PHOTO, to be glued to the under side of the sump. They could only have been .5 mm in dia, I had them removed ok but when I went to glue them down they refused to release from the scaple tip, then when they did went in the wrong place. Now not on and not likely to been seen again.:smiling3:

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                          As for the plastic its so well detailed and has little or no flash, soft so you have to take care cleaning and removing parts. Instructions seem ok, at least they are clear and well drawn.

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                          Bit messy with the glue, but as its an engine which will be dirty don't suppose that matters that much. Have now a better glue (old ) brush to apply.


                          Thanks for looking in ands those tips on the tracks, forewarned is always helpful.

                          Comments by all means welcome.

                          Dzhon.
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                          • Graeme C.
                            • Apr 2018
                            • 1628
                            • Graeme
                            • UK

                            #28
                            Looks interesting John, I'm in.

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                            • Guest

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Graeme C.
                              Looks interesting John, I'm in.
                              Hi Graeme, our posts just crossed, so welcome grab a seat and sit back.

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                              • Lee Drennen
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 7711

                                #30
                                Commander Race I’ll start pouring out the tea but far as the ramble you’re asking me to do a mission that is almost impossible.

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