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[BattleshipBob]

As the Takom build has stalled due to fit issues, the shop i bought it from has passed my comments on and i have posted on Facebook, first time!

So a quick one, oh matron

A oldie and my first StuG IV, thou not a real StuG
Plus stick on


Its very old, bit like me lol

Bob

 

[SimonT]

and not very accurate. I even think the sdkfz number is wrong - my refs say 167

 

[SteveH]

Its the best they could do when the Alkett factory was bashed up beyond production.

Its the slightly bigger brother, with more wheels but the same other bits.

Its the 1/2 brother by a different mother.

I am sure you will do him proud, 6 wheels or 8

Regards

Steve H

 

[Fernando N]

Even tough old it’s still a Tamiya so little probs in construction and some nice etch too.

Have fun Bob :thumb2:

 

[Allen Dewire]

and not very accurate. I even think the sdkfz number is wrong - my refs say 167

Me too Simon, but Kfzderwehrmacht site has a table of Sd. Kfz. numbers and it looks like this,

	142	gepanzerte Selbstfahrlafette für 7,5 cm Sturmgeschütz 40 Ausf. F, F8	Armoured self propelled gun carriage for 7.5 cm assault gun 40 version F, F8
	142/1	Sturmgeschütz III für 7,5cm Sturmkanone 40 (L/48) Ausf. G	Assault gun III for 7.5 cm assault gun 40 (L/48) version G
	142/2	Sturmhaubitze mit 10,5cm Sturmhaubitze 42 Ausf. G	Assault howitzer for 10.5 cm assault howitzer 42 version G
	143	Panzerbeobachtungswagen III	Artillery observation tank III
	144	Bergepanzerwagen III	Recovery tank III
	161	Panzerkampfwagen IV (7,5 cm) Ausf. A - F	Battle tank IV (7.5 cm) version A - F
	161/1	Panzerkampfwagen IV (7,5 cm) Ausf. G	Battle tank IV (7.5 cm) version G
	161/2	Panzerkampfwagen IV (7,5 cm) Ausf. H & J	Battle tank IV (7.5 cm) version H & J
	161/3	Flakpanzer IV (3,7cm Flak 43)	Anti aircraft tank IV (3.7cm AA gun 43)
	161/4	Flakpanzer IV (2cm FlakV 38) Wirbelwind	Anti aircraft tank IV (2cm quad AA gun 38) whirlwind
	162	Jagdpanzer IV	Hunting tank IV
	162/1	Panzer IV/70 (A) & (V)	Battle tank IV/70 make Alkett (A) and Vomag (V)
	163	Sturmgeschütz IV	Assault gun IV
	164	8,8cm Pak 43/1 auf Fgst. Panzer-Kampfwagen III/IV (Sf.) Hornisse, später Nashorn	8.8cm anti tank gun 43/1 on chassis battle tank III/IV (SPG) hornet, later rhinoceros
	164	Bergepanzerwagen IV	Recovery tank IV
	165	15cm s. FH 18/1 auf Fgst. Panzer-Kampfwagen III/IV (Sf.) Hummel	15cm heavy field howitzer 18/1 on chassis battle tank III/IV (SPG) bumblebee
	165/1	10,5cm le. FH 18/1 (Sf.) auf Gw. IV b	10.5cm light field howitzer 18/1 (SPG) on Gw. IV b
	166	Sturmpanzer IV	Assault tank IV
	171	Panzerkampfwagen Panther Ausf. D, A, G, F	Battle tank Panther version D, A, G, F
	172	Panzerkampfwagen Panther II	Battle tank Panther II
	173	Jagdpanther	Hunting-panther

And it shows no sign of a 167. Crazy!!!

 

[BattleshipBob]

and not very accurate. I even think the sdkfz number is wrong - my refs say 167

Yep.167, theres not a huge amount of books on the IV, i have wants about. The new books from History facts on the Pz IV will i have been told by Peter Muller a detailed section on the StuG IV

 

[BattleshipBob]

Its the best they could do when the Alkett factory was bashed up beyond production.

Its the slightly bigger brother, with more wheels but the same other bits.

Its the 1/2 brother by a different mother.

I am sure you will do him proud, 6 wheels or 8

Regards

Steve H

Hi Steve

Thankfully for the Germans the design of the StuG IV had been looked at before Alkett was badly bombed. I much prefer the StuG 111.

 

[BattleshipBob]

Even tough old it’s still a Tamiya so little probs in construction and some nice etch too.

Have fun Bob :thumb2:

Hi, good to hear from you

Added a lot of the zimm, no fit issues so far but its showing its age alright!
Bob

 

[Guest]

Me too Simon, but Kfzderwehrmacht site has a table of Sd. Kfz. numbers and it looks like this,

Page 359 of Kraftfahrzeuge und Panzer der Reichswehr, Wehrmacht und Bundeswehr ab 1900 (Werner Oswald, Stuttgart: Motorbuch Verlag, 2004) agrees with the table you posted, and comparing the two, I don’t get the impression one is a direct copy of the other. However, this doesn’t really prove anything substantial, of course. Oddly, Spielberger’s Sturmgeschütze doesn’t seem to give an Sd.Kfz. number for the StuG IV at all.

 

[BattleshipBob]

Been plodding along, built up hull and adding pe zimmerit




Steady as she goes!

Bob

 

[Fernando N]

Looking good Bob:thumb2:

 

[Dave Ward]

'Encyclopedia of German Tanks in WWII' by Chamberlein & Doyle p102 give the designation Stuermgeschutz IV (7.5cm StuK40 L/48 ) Sd.kfz. 167 ( also Geraet 820 ) Manufactured by Krupp-Gruson 1,139 produced
Dave

 

[Guest]

Looks good Bob, any chance you'll be using a green like 4BO, as you have some left.:smiling3:

 

[BattleshipBob]

Looks good Bob, any chance you'll be using a green like 4BO, as you have some left.:smiling3:

Cheeky, could always show this sticking a juicy.7.5 shell right up the ISU's rear hatch lol

 

[Guest]

Oddly, Spielberger’s Sturmgeschütze doesn’t seem to give an Sd.Kfz. number for the StuG IV at all.

I just found it does after all: page 182 also calls it Sd.Kfz. 167 in a table with monthly production figures.

However (to add to the post by @Dave Ward above) it says 1141 were taken up by the Waffenamt while Krupp produced 1111 (the other, first, thirty were assembled at Daimler-Benz on chassis from Nibelungenwerke).

 

[Steve Jones]

Lovely work on the zim Bob. Was it a pig of a job or did it glue on okay??

 

[BattleshipBob]

Morning Steve

Bit fiddly in places but you do lose some details, which have to be cut off.

Looks ok, but will have a go at zimm using martin kovics method

Hope you are well

Bob