discussion Water products.

[Guest]

I ask this as i'm hoping to make the latest diorama one with water. I ve got in stock some acrylic water from the now sadly closed Precision Ice and Snow. They did a range of water as well which I bought from John at the shop.

I've been thinking about using resin, but put off by the thought of bubbles appearing, oh I know about getting rid of them but is it really worth the cost , esp as I have the acrylic water in stock. Any one having used both I'd appreciate your comments .Id like to have one or two sides with the "water " showing.
John.

 

[Jim R]

I've never done a water dio John so can't help.

....now sadly closed Precision Ice and Snow.

That's a real shame. I hadn't heard.

 

[AlanG]

Ditto with that Jim. Shame as i have their snow products and it looks fantastic

 

[The Smythe Meister]

Agree with the guys John,a real shame about "Precision ice and snow",i hadn't heard either,when did that happen?
Only Water stuff I've seen is the "Woodland Scenic" kits,never used it myself though..... Ron Spanners is probably your best bet for info I reckon. :thinking:

 

[Jack L]

Following this John as I have yet to attempt anything wet but keen to. I have bought the AK resin water set...I know some scoff at special products but I don't already have gallons of general purpose products or the space to store.

 

[spanner570]

Sorry 453, I would like to offer some guidance, but I don't use any of the fancy stuff mentioned above. I prefer to keep things simple and to a degree, fool proof. :upside:

I just use children's acrylics and cheapo varnish for water and ordinary polyfilla (Other parrots are available) for ice and snow.

I certainly don't poo poo specialist water products, it's just some seem awfully long winded and rather hit and miss......

As is usual with our game, its a matter of individual preferences. Me, I just want a straight forward, uncomplicated model making experience.

570

 

[Guest]

I've never done a water dio John so can't help.

That's a real shame. I hadn't heard.

Thanks Jim, I only found out a couple of days ago when looking into water products. Its is a shame , they were a small company and sold great products. Luckily I still have several packs of ice, along with the water.

 

[Guest]

Ditto with that Jim. Shame as i have their snow products and it looks fantastic

Thanks Alan , lets hope the sieve for the snow will work with similar products, like Woodland Scenic.

 

[Guest]

Agree with the guys John,a real shame about "Precision ice and snow",i hadn't heard either,when did that happen? :sad:
Only Water stuff I've seen is the "Woodland Scenic" kits,never used it myself though..... Ron Spanners is probably your best bet for info I reckon. :thinking:

Hi Andy, some time ago apparently, would have guessed after Covid. That Woodland Scenic stuff is again acrylic , like I have.The only thing different I want to have it quite deep , hence the interest in resin.

 

[Guest]

If it was my diorama, I think I would do a test on some scrap material before trying to apply the water to the actual diorama, regardless of what I was using.

 

[Guest]

Following this John as I have yet to attempt anything wet but keen to. I have bought the AK resin water set...I know some scoff at special products but I don't already have gallons of general purpose products or the space to store.

Hi Jack, think its a very similar product. Adds so much to a diorama you should have a go .Just remember sealing is the key, I learnt from bitter experience.

 

[Guest]

Sorry 453, I would like to offer some guidance, but I don't use any of the fancy stuff mentioned above. I prefer to keep things simple and to a degree, fool proof. :upside:

I just use children's acrylics and cheapo varnish for water and ordinary polyfilla (Other parrots are available) for ice and snow.

I certainly don't poo poo specialist water products, it's just some seem awfully long winded and rather hit and miss......

As is usual with our game, its a matter of individual preferences. Me, I just want a straight forward, uncomplicated model making experience.

570

570 , individual preferences are indeed right. I'm at a lost as to how deep I can go with the acrylic water, it would have to be done in layers of less than 5 mm at least. Resin is considered the best and you can go quite deep in one pour. :nerd:

 

[Guest]

If it was my diorama, I think I would do a test on some scrap material before trying to apply the water to the actual diorama, regardless of what I was using.

That's a good idea Jakko, but I'd have to mix a small amount of resin to see the results, and the resin is not cheap .

 

[Guest]

True, there is that … OTOH, given the chance of it going wrong, I think it’s probably a good precaution anyway.

 

[Guest]

True, there is that … OTOH, given the chance of it going wrong, I think it’s probably a good precaution anyway.

Well I could seal a layer of xps with the soft filler which is supposed to seal and try that, will do that. :thumb2:

 

[Andy T]

Having seen the base John, it looks ideal for resin really.

I feel like it's getting over used, and some seem to include it just for the sake of it, but resin would be just the job for what you have in mind I reckon.

 

[Dave Ward]

John,
I've been looking at water products - these seem to be promising

and this is intersting to watch

Dave

 

[Guest]

Having seen the base John, it looks ideal for resin really.

I feel like it's getting over used, and some seem to include it just for the sake of it, but resin would be just the job for what you have in mind I reckon.

Thanks Andy.

 

[Guest]

John,
I've been looking at water products - these seem to be promising

and this is intersting to watch

Dave

Thanks Dave I like Deluxe products, but haven't looked at this, so will do so. :thumb2:

 

[rtfoe]

Just saw this Wobble, but I have to run some errands so will post later. Yes sealing is the key and the type of sealant that doesn't react and cause bubbles. PVA is what I use or acrylic clear varnish to prep the surface. Check out my ambush dio for reference.

Cheers,
Wabble