discussion At last i can mottle (sort of)

[AlanG]

Ok i know to some of you this is an easy thing to do but i've never really been able to do it. More me then the airbrush to be honest. But i've just tried out my new Iwata Revolution CR and have to say i am SO impressed in the difference in control. Still not up to the standard of some of you but i'm well chuffed now. You ought to see the smile on my face lol

Here is a before and after pic

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Oh and yes i did paint the red 'Defence of the Reich' band on

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[Ian M]

Good stuff Al. I look forward to seeing what you can get out of the new toy. By the looks of the first try, its not going to be long before you are amazing us all.

Ian M

 

[AlanG]

It's certainly going to be interesting Ian. Can't get to grips with Vallejo paint in it though. Might have to stick to Xtracrylix and Tamiya paints for now

 

[Guest]

Al thats the stuff ! Lookin' good, no more excuses now get building some Nachtjagers!!!

 

[stona]

Looks good,you've got the control now. You should be able to build up the density of the mottles to suit your subject and references. Stand by for hours (literally) of fun!

The great thing about airbrushing is that if you do overdo a bit of mottling or make some other boo-boo,as I invariably do,you can always go back and fix it with a quick squirt of the under-lying colour.

I find that with a 0.35 mm needle I can spray all the Luftwaffe camouflage demarcations (1/32 and 1/48),except the hard edged splinter schemes on bomber/transports and early fighters, freehand.

Cheers

Steve

 

[spanner570]

Looking nice Al' and a nice Chrizzy prezzy too, you'll soon get it sorted!

Steve, it won't be long before Allyne is doing the mottle on Major Wicks's Bf109.........

Cheers,

Ron

 

[stona]

Looking nice Al' and a nice Chrizzy prezzy too, you'll soon get it sorted!Steve, it won't be long before Allyne is doing the mottle on Major Wicks's Bf109.........

Cheers,

Ron

Funny you should mention Wick. I was just sorting my "abschuss" rudder marking folder and found this well known picture of Werner Machold posing for the propaganda cameraman and pretending to paint his ninth victory on the fin of his aircraft. His aircraft was stippled like Wick's and this is a good close up of how they applied it.

Definitely no airbrush (or in their case spray gun) needed!

Cheers

Steve

 

[colin m]

It's certainly going to be interesting Ian. Can't get to grips with Vallejo paint in it though. Might have to stick to Xtracrylix and Tamiya paints for now

I sometimes have a bit of 'fun' spraying Vallejo model colour. Their pre thinned stuff goes on great, dead easy, but when I thin the model color stuff myself, sometimes it can be a bit tricky. I wonder if plain old water isn't really good enough for thinning ?

Colin M.......

 

[AlanG]

Colin. It's the model air stuff i've tried and i've even added vallejo thinners to it. Still seems too thick and clogs up the brush. Maybe i'm using to low air pressure

 

[Ian M]

Although I have in the past used distilled water for thinning Vallejo Model color with I have lately been using their thinners. I must say the difference is amazing. Using water I found some times that the paint would split out If thinned to much. (the pigments start to separate). With the thinners it just gets, well, thinner. I think that it is also more resilient with the thinners.

As for the drying on the needle it could well be that you are spraying to slow. A bit more air or a bit thinner paint should do the trick. By the Bye, Vallejo thinners is also great in Xtracrylix paint!

Ian M

 

[Ian M]

That picture you posted Steve (post#7) If I had to guess at how they did that I would say it was ragged on. Or off. You might get a like effect with a stippling brush but it would not be quite the same.

Ian M

 

[stona]

That picture you posted Steve (post#7) If I had to guess at how they did that I would say it was ragged on. Or off. You might get a like effect with a stippling brush but it would not be quite the same.Ian M

Quite possibe. The paint looks to have been well thinned too. It's definitely a dark colour (RLM 70 or 71) applied over what would have been an RLM 65 fin originally. Like many unit camouflage modifications there was a common style but no two aircraft were the same. There are good images of some other JG 2 aircraft (including Wick's) which look to have been stippled by brush. It's part of the fun!

Not really mottling,sorry for hijacking your thread Allyne.

Cheers

Steve

 

[rickoshea52]

What consistency are you thinnig too Al? I read somewhere that for acrylics the thinned paint should be of a consistency similar to milk and the pre-thinned paints that I use, Tensocrom opaques and Com-Art, certainly seem to have that consistency. I have a spatula shaped paint mixing tool and check my paint by lifting the tool with paint on it and if it drops off in a self contained drop it is usually ok, for acrylic it should form drops quicker and run off like milk.

Also, as a basic good practice, always use the same brand thinner to paint. I would never use water as a thinner.

 

[AlanG]

Had another little play. This time with xtracrylix paints

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