I drive a 7 1/2 ton (sometimes 17 ton) lorry for a living , delivering stuff to people, and ive got to agree with ray (delmonteman ) - half cant see you and the other half seem determined to crash into you!! The number of times people have pulled out in front of this big green lorry ,complete with headlights on, as if its not there is unbelievable!! Trouble is ,working for a leading retailer with a suitably emblazoned lorry means i just have to ignore the idiots and bite my tongue ,we cant be seen arguing with members of the public , although its never silent in the cab!!! hope they dont ever fit voice recorders in there , i'd be sacked after about 5 mins!! cheers tony