discussion Faded/bleached effect ?

[Alan 45]

what colour would a red look if it was faded or bleached by the sun ?

My heart says a brick red and my head says I dunno!

Any help chaps

 

[AlanG]

Depends on what shade of red it was before it started and how long it's been in the sun for.

 

[Alan 45]

Depends on what shade of red it was before it started and how long it's been in the sun for.

It's a red red the colour a spinner cap was on a spitfire stationed in North Africa so it would be in the sun a lot

 

[Guest]

Mostly it becomes lighter and way more dull. Here in our AFB they have dark green/dark earth planes and the green becomes a light kachi and the earth becomes a type of pink almost!

I would think a bright red like spinner red will become a lighter dull red.............yes I know that sounds nothing like you asked for LOL

Theuns

 

[Alan 45]

Mostly it becomes lighter and way more dull. Here in our AFB they have dark green/dark earth planes and the green becomes a light kachi and the earth becomes a type of pink almost!I would think a bright red like spinner red will become a lighter dull red.............yes I know that sounds nothing like you asked for LOL

Theuns

Funnily enough I think I understand lol

 

[Guest]

Have you ever seen a car that is red that`s been bleached by the sun, it almost goes a pinky grey colour/magenta, the sun bleaches/fades the pigments in the red paint and it gets lighter almost a pinky/greyish blue colour

 

[Guest]

Like this ...

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[Alan 45]

This is what I came up with View attachment 94724

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[Ian M]

Looks about right. I might be tempted to give it a light over spray with a very thinned down white..

Ian M

 

[Alan 45]

Looks about right. I might be tempted to give it a light over spray with a very thinned down white..Ian M

Thanks Ian I knew it was missing something got the prop to do now

 

[ojays]

Looks right to me, having had to machine polish many red Ford Escorts/Fiesta's & Vauxhall Viva's/Astra's during the 70's, to get rid of the unstable sun bleached pigments.

This was before manufacturers started using 2pack paints, cellulose red was easily bleached by the sun, even in the UK

Gregg

 

[Guest]

Bleached out is when the pigments go and you must eventually reach white. So it is some where in between Alan.

Same with the prop. arms they will bleach out to a white grey.

Why not put bleach on and see the result. Second thought don't.

Laurie

 

[Guest]

If that is a prop of a plane that was based in say north Africa I would drybruch the prop with silver to give it a sandblasted look.

Props used on dusty strips have the paint blasted off from mainly the back sides and a small portion of the leading edges more progressively towards the tips.

The leading edges usually suffer more from stone chips and the rear faces are a more "soft" look to it.

Theuns

 

[Guest]

Another thin I remember is that the bleaching effect is not usually a universal nice even tone, the paint is thicker in some places and stand up the the sun a little better. This is however very hard to simulate on such small scale.

Theuns

 

[Alan 45]

Wasn't the vb a wooden prop ? I did read somewhere when I was looking for inspiration that these had a wooden propeller

 

[The Migrant]

Wasn't the vb a wooden prop ? I did read somewhere when I was looking for inspiration that these had a wooden propeller

Clear as mud, from Wikipedia:

"Different propeller types were fitted, according to where the Spitfire V was built: Supermarine and Westland manufactured VBs and VCs used 10 ft 9 in (3.28 m) diameter, 3 bladed de Havilland constant speed units, with narrow metal blades, while Castle Bromwich manufactured VBs and VCs were fitted with a wide bladed Rotol constant speed propeller of either 10 ft 9 in (3.28 m) diameter, with metal blades, or (on late production Spitfires) 10 ft 3 in (3.12 m) diameter, with broader, "Jablo" (compressed wood) blades.[84] The Rotol spinners were longer and more pointed than the de Havilland leading to a 3.5 in (8.9 cm) increase in overall length."

 

[Alan 45]

Clear as mud, from Wikipedia:"Different propeller types were fitted, according to where the Spitfire V was built: Supermarine and Westland manufactured VBs and VCs used 10 ft 9 in (3.28 m) diameter, 3 bladed de Havilland constant speed units, with narrow metal blades, while Castle Bromwich manufactured VBs and VCs were fitted with a wide bladed Rotol constant speed propeller of either 10 ft 9 in (3.28 m) diameter, with metal blades, or (on late production Spitfires) 10 ft 3 in (3.12 m) diameter, with broader, "Jablo" (compressed wood) blades.[84] The Rotol spinners were longer and more pointed than the de Havilland leading to a 3.5 in (8.9 cm) increase in overall length."

Yeah I stay out of Wikipedia it can fuddle your mind

 

[monica]

well what i think is the color you have done is right,but it needs that white plowed look to it,as if

you run your hand over it with come,s off ,as i had a yellow car once and even a blue car that had that plowed white look

were the sun hit the most,

 

[stona]

I think the blades you've got there are supposed to be Jablo, 'wooden', blades.

I'm sure the 'plastic' covering over the laminated wood would fade eventually, but not chip. Many (all?) these blades had a brass strip attached to the leading edge which might show on a worn example.

Cheers

Steve

 

[Guest]

Looks right to me, having had to machine polish many red Ford Escorts/Fiesta's & Vauxhall Viva's/Astra's during the 70's, to get rid of the unstable sun bleached pigments.This was before manufacturers started using 2pack paints, cellulose red was easily bleached by the sun, even in the UK

Gregg

I had a white mini in 1961-66 (one of the first to be made, bought it off my father. The white had gone a bit yellow and matt. I used Vim (remember that harsh gritty abrasive before Ciff?). It worked a treat by removing the dead surface (as you mention) and didn't get anywhere near revealing the undercoat. I sold it to an eager young lad who obviously didn't know about the many faults of the Mini of which mine was a good example. No, I don't feel guilty. He didn't ask, despite having his father with him.