discussion I no longer want to cancel my membership - good sense has prevailed!

[Guest]

Sorry to see you go Patrick, just as I am coming back but hope to see you back soon,


Steve.

 

[Guest]

Dear Patrick.


This is a modeling site, so the best way to expres yourself is building a model.


I propouse you a treatment....


Build, you and me, the same model!


You are an excellent modeler and an important part of this forum (like all the members), so forget the other comments and keep your mind on the modeling.


You want to talk...? Talk with me


Is not a competition, but certainly, will be a challenge...


If after this period you still thinking you want to go, I, personally, will write to Ian and John to delete your account.


Genial...?!?!


Polux

 

[yak face]

As many others have said , I can only urge you to reconsider Patrick . Your input and contribution to the forum would be greatly missed , hopefully a difference of opinions wont mean the end of this .On a further note can i ask all members to learn something from this and other recent episodes and please try and avoid stirring up any further s**tstorms ! Any question such as " which is best? enamel or acrylic , brush or airbrush , Revell or Tamiya" etc. is like asking a room full of football fans which is the best team , everyone is very passionate about their own personal choice (hence the violence and fighting) and questioning which is best always results in heated arguments . Can we avoid any further "so and so VS so and so" type posts and respect the fact we all do things differently . As Si says at the end of the day its only plastic , its supposed to be an enjoyable hobby ?! heres hoping that you have a change of heart , cheers tony

 

[BarryW]

Just back from a week away and I cannot say how surprised at finding this thread. I have not seen the 'offending' posts so cannot comment on them but one thing I know is that this forum is the friendliest on the web.


Yes I agree that this media can result in comments being taken out of context and with a harsher meaning than is intended by the poster. I myself, on a FB modelling page, found myself virtually being called a liar when I defended Vallejo Primer pointing out I had used it on over 25 models with success and explained how it should be used.... 'It always peels, letting it cured does not work - period' was the terse and very rude reply and, strangley I was the one told off because I had some offended someone by suggesting they used it wrongly !!!


Its a strange world at times...


Patrick, you are a valued member of this forum and I would hate to see you leave. Please stay and share your builds and experience here.

 

[Guest]

Can I say that despite one or two spats over the years this has remained by far and above the most friendly and supportive forum on the internet, particularly to newcomers and those returning to the hobby after prolonged periods of absence. I consider it an honour to be in a position to try to help keep it that way.


As he has already mentioned here I have a huge amount of respect for Laurie, who left us in not dissimilar circumstances and, after all the arguments that ensued, I have to admit to feeling a degree of relief when he did (Sorry Laurie, I have to be honest but also have to admit I was wrong!). However he did return and continues to be one of our most prolific and positive contributors, for that I applaud his courage for returning.


I can only ask that this particular thread remains supportive and positive of Patrick and give him time to reflect and consider his position. Memberships are not canceled lightly, particularly when a post count is high, so a period of calm is always better before taking such action.

 

[tanktrack]

for my tupance worth ,there are 3816 members on here and that is 3816 different viewpoints , I have not looked at the pages in question so im not going to judge either but 20-30 years ago there was no internet /facebook etc ,now the forums give us the freedom to talk and show our hobby to the world and each other .


I recently put a number of my models into a show and 1 "only" came 3rd I was a bit miffed about this and to be honest I took the hump and I soon realized that I should chill out and do better next time , there is always going to some one better than you in modelling but you learn from talking to each other and we are all the better for it . That is why I come onto this forum which to me is the best on the planet by far and the friendliest so come on guys pull together and happy building what ever you do

 

[Guest]

Thanks to all who took the time to be supportive & in so doing, knock some sense into me!


You're absolutely right, making such a decision based on anger or feeling hurt was a silly idea. I'm humble enough (I hope!) to retract my request & continue as a part of this great forum.


Whilst I hope my input might be helpful, the real benefit for me is getting help & inspiration from the excellent builds I see everyday.


Once again, my heartfelt thanks to the kindness you've all shown me.


Patrick

 

[Guest]

Peace returns to the Shires.

 

[john i am]

Thanks to all who took the time to be supportive & in so doing, knock some sense into me!
You're absolutely right, making such a decision based on anger or feeling hurt was a silly idea. I'm humble enough (I hope!) to retract my request & continue as a part of this great forum.


Whilst I hope my input might be helpful, the real benefit for me is getting help & inspiration from the excellent builds I see everyday.


Once again, my heartfelt thanks to the kindness you've all shown me.


Patrick

Great news Patrick I'm very relieved and happy you've had a change of heart and decided to stay with us.

 

[Guest]

This is a great notice Patrick!!


Well....this means that we will not have a "hand to hand" build...?!?

 

[takeslousyphotos]

Good call Patrick.

 

[John]

You're absolutely right, making such a decision based on anger or feeling hurt was a silly idea. I'm humble enough (I hope!) to retract my request & continue as a part of this great forum.


Patrick

oops I've already deleted you


As has already been said when something is written it's not always how it's meant to be and can be read the wrong way.


I think you have made the right decision to stay, we can all benefit for each other and loosing a member is not good.

 

[yak face]

Glad to see you're staying with us patrick Cheers tony

 

[Guest]

knock some sense into me!

Hey Patrick I love it.


Laurie

 

[PaulTRose]

my two pennuth worth


personnally id hate to see you go.......always enjoyed your armour builds especially


you always get cliques on any type of forum, its bound to happen, its natural even in real life when similar types of people get together, but of all the modelling forums ive joined/looked at it this place suffers less than most


in the past it has bugged me....dosnt any more........if everyone had the same views, same choices, same opinions then the world would be a very boring place...........i have seen things that have irked me and i have had to say something which i have regretted, so now try to bite my tongue (i fail sometimes lol, but thats just being human) but its the variety of people that makes things interesting


i once did leave a forum cos i was p******d off at the attitude of the ruling clique.............was a few years ago and i stumbled on an armour forum, at first glance the work being done was incredible and i thought i could learn plenty.......after a few months i realised that the place had formed due to a bunch of people getting annoyed on another forum, falling out with admiin there and starting their own forum, so there was very much a clique of about a dozen............it was also the sort of place where they would take a year to build something, spending 5 times the amount of the kit on after market stuff.......which isnt my style at all...........they used to belittle the latest kits as 'inaccurate' since it would be missing a row of bolts behind a mudflap ( i just shook my head in disbelief lol)............but i started posting stuff and got very little in the way of recognition ,,,,,,i realised that it was cos i wasnt 'in the gang' as i was a newcomer and cos my bulds were basic/no extras....and i wasnt the only one who felt like that........so i told them to stuff it.....their reply was you should try making nice comments about other peoples work to fit in.....i pointed out i wasnt there just to massage their ego's, i was there to learn and i had joined in, including group builds,..the 'gang' then all started to band together to have a go at me...so i went through all my threads and deleted every pic i had posted......ive never regretted it for a second........id regret leaving here, its a very different feeling here, much more friendly

 

[Guest]

Well Patrick, as a newcomer on here, I don't really know you, but one thing I can say, I'm glad you decided to stay. No matter what type of models you build, it is nice to know that someone somewhere will always be there to answer a question or solve a problem, that as modellers we sometimes find difficult to solve. As for most of us on here, when we all started modelling, there was no internet and one just modelled alone at home, or in local groups. Now we can still model at home, but share our work with other modellers, and pass on ideas and help each other. Without this forum and each other, modelling would again, become a lonely hobby.


Geoff

 

[Guest]

i once did leave a forum cos i was p******d off at the attitude of the ruling clique.............was a few years ago and i stumbled on an armour forum, at first glance the work being done was incredible and i thought i could learn plenty.......after a few months i realised that the place had formed due to a bunch of people getting annoyed on another forum, falling out with admiin there and starting their own forum, so there was very much a clique of about a dozen............it was also the sort of place where they would take a year to build something, spending 5 times the amount of the kit on after market stuff.......which isnt my style at all...........they used to belittle the latest kits as 'inaccurate' since it would be missing a row of bolts behind a mudflap ( i just shook my head in disbelief lol)............but i started posting stuff and got very little in the way of recognition ,,,,,,i realised that it was cos i wasnt 'in the gang' as i was a newcomer and cos my bulds were basic/no extras....and i wasnt the only one who felt like that........so i told them to stuff it.....their reply was you should try making nice comments about other peoples work to fit in.....i pointed out i wasnt there just to massage their ego's, i was there to learn and i had joined in, including group builds,..the 'gang' then all started to band together to have a go at me...so i went through all my threads and deleted every pic i had posted......ive never regretted it for a second........id regret leaving here, its a very different feeling here, much more friendly

Been there got the T shirt Paul. Not the same forum, but I was a member of a similar forum, which was run by a group of hooray henry's who thought modelling had to be perfect or it wasn't accurate or good enough. Ok we all like to get our modells as accurate as possible, but it shouldn't become paramount to the point that unless it was, it's not good enough.


Yes I like it on here, just normal people enjoying what they build, whether it's simple or complicated, what the hell! Enjoy what you do, admire and praise others work and enjoy and share your own work. That's what makes a good forum.

 

[Guest]

wtf is going on!!!


I don't know if I want to read the other thread or not, glad you have changed your mind. I suppose its easy to get caught up in an argument. Step back and 'woooossssaahhhh' (bad boys quote)


I think all arguments on here should be decided with a build off.

 

[Guest]

Good decision mate, it's almost as if you never left


Seriously though I'm glad you have decided to stay, really look forward to seeing your builds buddy

 

[grumpa]

Good for you Patrick! kinda knew you wouldn't go, and I also want Alan to know I never drew sides in this one, just human nature to go at it at times but almost always in retrospect when things have cooled down we tend to realize how silly we must have seemed at the time. Now let's all try to be good boys {and girl} at least until the next brew up ..............Jim