discussion Italeri Hawk T. Mk I

[Ian M]

Well I spose I'd better do some thing! The winner is

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the new Italeri Hawk in 1/48 scale

It can be finnished as one of four versions, I will be doing the 4th flight training squadron at Vally in 2001. The last aircraft flown by 74-Tiger squadron.

Four sprues of cleanly molded light gray palstic. Clean crisp and almsot flash free.

One sprue clear with the canopy and windscreen. Again crisply molded and not to thick. There is NO seam down the middle and has the squiggly cord thingies finely molded. (are they heat cables or canopy charges to blow the lid?)

There is also a small PE sheet with both insruments and harnesses. As usual for Italeri, they are a bit on the thick side. Fine for the panels but a bit of a bugger for things that should be bent. They tend to bend at the wronge place.

Also typical for Italeri there are no pilot figures included. :-(

Panel lines and rivits are nicely done and the tyres are weighted so no need to melt these ones

Well I will shut up and get on with it.

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[Guest]

You know, I have often been put off the Hawk because of its links with the Red Arrows (sorry guys but I am not a fan of formation flying which, though skilful and very clever, I do not find remotely entertaining) however, it is a nice looking aircraft. Given that it will be one of the few aircraft the UK has in service after the Harriers go, final flights this month I believe, the Hawk may be one to look at. I know they did one in BoB colours to fly alongside the Spitfire, that would make an interesting one.

Look forward to seeing this develop Ian, is it a completely new (tool) kit? Would be interested in your comments about it.

 

[Guest]

spent a weeks holiday in august almost entirely watching hawks at valley,our caravan was only a mile or so away.would love to make a model of the 2010 display hawk but would have to find or make some decals because i dont trust my painting enough yet

 

[Ian M]

Hi Graham I'm not sure if it is a new tooling actually! A quick look at their web site at kit nr 2669 will bring the kit up. The red arrows version has nr2677 both are fairly recent kits, that mush I know but as to being 100% a new tooling? The detail is good though and the lines/rivet are not ott.

A good look at the instructions and the sprues dont give any clues either, no dates anywhere to be found!!!

 

[Guest]

So long as the surface detail is OK, you should be fine. I see from the box it comes with PE to, anything interesting there?

 

[Guest]

I've narrowly avoided this in my last few visits to the LHS but I'll be interested to see what becomes of this. Ian the squiggles are canopy detcords!

 

[Ian M]

Andrew: Whats that like, is it the Unionjack job. Looks bloody good that one.

Graham: Instuments main and side panels, harnesses. As mentioned in the first post. Pay attention at the back!!

Stewart: Detcords. thats the buggers. Just was not 100%!

So what colour are the harnesses in modern British Aircraft. I was thinking orange.....

So far the cockpit has fallen together quite well and the decals for the dials actually line up with the holes in the panel!!! Well Done Italeri!

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Not the best pictures, sorry but then you cant see how bad things are. :laughing:

Seriously what colour for the harnesses, ot so much as a clue on the instruction!

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[Ian M]

Hi Andrew do you mean this one....

Cosford Air Show 2010 | Fast Air Photography

Model Allience do them in 1/72, 1/48 and 1/32!!

And you can find them here MA-200 RAF 2010 Display Hawk T.1A [MA-48200] - £13.50 : The Aviation Workshop

 

[Guest]

yep, thats the baby,stood 30 ft behind it whilst it was taking of at valley,looks fantastic. any of you guys been there,you can get so close to the runways

 

[Guest]

'scuse me, I was paying attention, I was just checking that you were..... Love the cockpit, looks great.

 

[Guest]

dont know if you have seen this site but is chocked full of valley hawks and somewhere in there is a full photo diary of the painters doing the display hawk valley aviation society - Homepage

 

[Guest]

Ian cockpit looks superb!

 

[Ian M]

Well its sunday, and has been piddleing down with rain all day, so I hid in my cave and got on with the hawk.

I must say that over all the fit is super and in fact I have on used any filler at all! The seams on the fuselage are almost invisible just after a quick scrap with a blade and a polish with the polishing stick. I will need to use some filler at the wing root if the dry fit is any thing to go by, but that might of been my doings, smoothing off the sprue attachments!!!

There was the option of doing the flaps up or down, so I went with the down, also the air brake box will need a bit of filler, and that will be in the deployed possition.

The usual problem with the intake vents was minimal and again no need for filler, so Italeri have earned a few extra browny points from me today! However there is a desperate shortage of locators, where they have to meet the fuselage, and the seam runs right through a panel! Not smart!

As the paint job on this bird is nice shiny black I was hoping that I could avoid filler as it can nearly always be seen under the paint. S'pose I will just have to try a bit harder on this one!

I also got the PE harnesses put in the seats, I went for a nice safe buff for the straps!

A few piccies:

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[Ian M]

God my lap-top's filthy!

 

[Ian M]

Well I had a day off and what happens the cable goes down! No Telly. NO INTERNET!! Oh dear!

Still, i got the Hawk almost ready for paint.

Not To happy with the fit of the canopy, but abit of sanding and shaving got it in place, sort of. All primered up and awaiting a coat of nice shiny black:

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Hope I get time tomorrow after work.

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[Guest]

Hi.

Coming along nicely Ian. Should look good in the black. Mind you everything looks cooler in black. Lol. Can't wait to see it. Nice subliminal advertising in the background too.

Cheers

Kresten.

 

[Ian M]

Thanks Kresten. After having told you all you need to know about painting glossy black, it would be soooooo typical for me to make a right cock up of it so I had better take extra special care now that you are following this ;-)

Now that the primer is a day old, I can see there are a couple of places where it needs a tiny bit of filling to hid the joint of the intakes to the fuselage! So I have been pin pointing it with primer and when thats hard I will polish it down. Lets just hope that I dont have to do it to many times!!!

I have sprayed the 'lighter' frames on the canopy. Some of my photos showed it as almost white and others it was the more typical linen colour, So I have gone with that! So when that too has had time to cure I can mask that off.

 

[Guest]

Looking real good Ian, keep up the good work.

Andy

 

[Guest]

Andrew: Whats that like, is it the Unionjack job. Looks bloody good that one.Graham: Instuments main and side panels, harnesses. As mentioned in the first post. Pay attention at the back!!

Stewart: Detcords. thats the buggers. Just was not 100%!

So what colour are the harnesses in modern British Aircraft. I was thinking orange.....

So far the cockpit has fallen together quite well and the decals for the dials actually line up with the holes in the panel!!! Well Done Italeri!

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Not the best pictures, sorry but then you cant see how bad things are. :laughing:

Seriously what colour for the harnesses, ot so much as a clue on the instruction!

Ian, Have a look here for harness colours. Cheers Derek

Ejection Seat Color - Royal Air Force

 

[Ian M]

Chears Derek! Thats one very usefull site. I rather like that idea of listing all the after market parts for each seat/aircraft. Added that link to my SIG folder!!!

Just a quick breifing: The Hawk it now Black. Very black. Not very shiny, but I was expectiing that. I had run dry in Humbrol Enamel, So I am doing it in Vallejo Model Colour. Mixed it 50% with gloss medium, but I think it should of been a load more. The Next decission is to just give it a gloss clear cote, or to give it a paint/varnish mix.. It might give it more depth, but on the other hand could cock it up compleatly. :laughing:

Bugger I have missed a bit! The sheen of the paint and the grey primer are almost the same tone. Sitting writing this and I find that the sheen on the pylons ends is in fact not sheen at all but primer. :grumpy:

I think its time to go make a pizza!