discussion Marine One

[mrtintheweb]

Has anybody ever done a Sea King or Sikorsky VH-3 as Marine One?
Thinking of having a go as cant seem to find an actual kit. There are older ones and the Black Hawk one but not the actual one they usually use.

T

 

[Guest]

There’s a complete kit from 2017, in 1:72:
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/whirlybird-wpx72056-vh-3d-marine-one--1119778
Also a conversion set and a set of decals for the Fujimi Sea King, from the same manufacturer. Not sure why you might want to buy those separately, as I would expect the full kit to be both of those plus the requisite Fujimi plastic kit.

 

[dave]

Trumpeter are releasing a 1/48th marine one in February, seen on Modelling News
https://www.themodellingnews.com/2021/01/februarys-kits-for-2021-from-trumpeter.html#more

 

[Dave Ward]

Wonder why all the Marine One helicopters are elderly?

The UK doesn't have a great record for procurement, but we're amateurs compared to the US!!!
Dave

 

[Ian M]

I saw the same video this morning and was going to post a link but got sidetracked. The latest is they are considering the Osprey....
Anyone know why they have to have such a large fleet (as high as 21 has been mentioned)' while there is only two Airforce One.

 

[Dave Ward]

I would have thought that the Osprey was too big to land on the White House Lawn..........
I suppose that 21 helicopters means that they always have reserves - and that VIP statesmen , like the Vice-president ( Marine Two ) & other hangers on can use them. Limited range compared to Air Force One would mean that the correct helicopters could be pre-positioned before an overseas visit, just my supposition!
Dave

 

[Guest]

there is only two Airforce One.

Technically there’s just one, as it’s only Air Force One when the president is on board But their having so many helicopters is the American attitude of better far too many than possibly too little, I suppose.

I would have thought that the Osprey was too big to land on the White House Lawn..........

It would be if it were a Dutch air ambulance. Apparently, football fields are too small for Eurocopter EC-135s …

 

[mrtintheweb]

I would have thought that the Osprey was too big to land on the White House Lawn..........
I suppose that 21 helicopters means that they always have reserves - and that VIP statesmen , like the Vice-president ( Marine Two ) & other hangers on can use them. Limited range compared to Air Force One would mean that the correct helicopters could be pre-positioned before an overseas visit, just my supposition!
Dave

I recall on a documentary I saw that the reason is they have so many is that they always operate in 3's. So this means they can keep 3 sets around the country as they reckon it's cheaper than moving them to spots where used regularly. There are also places the C5 Galaxy can't land so the helicopters have to be flown long distances or moved in stages. Having 7 sets means they can have one or two sets in maintenance at all times plus have others (Set on West Coast, set in DC set at Andrew's (no not same sets I don't think) etc.

Couldn't find that @Jakko when I looked, so thanks.
@Dave Ward and @Ian M that was the vid that prompted me too.

T

 

[Fernando N]

I would have thought that the Osprey was too big to land on the White House Lawn..........
Dave

Having been in one, they’re not that big as they seem.
Just a tad over the E-101 series and a 5’7 guy like me just cleared the internals when walking in the Osprey:smiling:

 

[Fernando N]

It would be if it were a Dutch air ambulance. Apparently, football fields are too small for Eurocopter EC-135s …

The pilots can land them on a pins head if they want, seen one at Dam square between the tram lines and even one landed at a fenced soccerfield once.

 

[Dave Ward]

Having been in one, they’re not that big as they seem.
Just a tad over the E-101 series and a 5’7 guy like me just cleared the internals when walking in the Osprey:smiling:

It's the rotor diameters - the Osprey is 25m over the rotors, the Sea King has a rotor diameter of 19m ( same as the EH-101 )
Dave

 

[Guest]

The pilots can land them on a pins head if they want, seen one at Dam square between the tram lines and even one landed at a fenced soccerfield once.

What I mean is that, at least where I live, quite regularly there are ridiculous cases where an air ambulance is called in, and the patient has to be moved by ground ambulance to some landing site 10, 15 or even 30 km away because a nearby football field, a farmer’s field or a beach, for inexplicable reasons apparently isn’t a suitable place to land … And then you watch British rescue services reality shows, and you see them land on a crossroads in the middle of town :rolling:

 

[Ian M]

Had the dubious pleasure of seeing one of our air ambulances land on a two lane motorway a while back. Here if needed they also use airforce Merlins and they land whereever they like! (if there is room that is...)