discussion Sea Hurricane Mk IIc

[Guest]

Hello

Does anyone please have really good pictures or drawings of a camouflage scheme for a sea hurricane please? I've got the new tooled airfix 1/78. There are two paint options provided - I like the look of the No 43 Squadron, RAF Tangmere Wing 1942, although the camouflage and scale frighten the life out of me, given I'm fairly new to doing these camouflages.

Thanks

 

[stona]

The 43 Squadron option is for a Hurricane (it's an RAF squadron). In 1942 the camouflage would have been the day Fighter Scheme (DFS). Dark Green and Ocean Grey over Medium Sea Grey.

The camouflage pattern didn't change from the earlier BOB version, just the colours and the addition of the yellow stripes on the leading edge of the wings and the Sky band around the fuselage in front of the fin.

I'll see if I can find a diagram somewhere.

Cheers

Steve

 

[Guest]

Nice choice Aidan, have a look at this website. Cheers Derek

WINGS PALETTE - Hawker Hurricane/Sea Hurricane - Great Britain

 

[flyjoe180]

Most of those new Airfix kits have quite comprehensive camouflage and colour diagrams included.

Steve's summary of the RAF colours is all you need to know, that from 1941 the Ocean Grey replaced Dark Earth Brown and Medium Sea Grey replaced the old underside colour of Sky, with the addition of a Sky coloured fuselage band on the rear fuselage forward of the tail with yellow leading edge recognition stripes (FS34079/36152 over 36270). You can use the pattern for any later-1940 Hurricane and simply change the colours around the Dark Green. Earlier Hurricanes had a reversed pattern so be careful that you use references to ensure the correct one is chosen. I'm pretty sure Airfix will have given you the scheme you need.

Royal Navy Sea Hurricanes up to 1943 typically wore Extra Dark Sea Grey/Dark Slate Grey over Sky undersides (FS36118/34096 over 34583) and from 1943 the undersides changed to a 'Grimmy White' (ivory) colour.

 

[Dave W]

I've got the Italeri 1/48 sea Hurricane kit.I can post a photo of the colour schemes given in the instructions if you want.Am at work at the moment but can do it this evening.

 

[Vaughan]

Aidan here's some photos I took of a dismantled Sea Hurricane at The Shuttleworth Collection last year if this is any help.

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[Guest]

And here are some more which may help Aidan.

Hawker Sea Hurricane aircraft profile. Aircraft Database of the Fleet Air Arm Archive 1939-1945

Hawker Hurricane

You vill be tested at the end of your mission.

Laurie

 

[stona]

Here's an example of a Hurrican II in DFS from the "Combat Colours" series.





The brown and green Hurricane in the link posted by Laurie is in the Temperate Land Scheme (TLS) which preceded the Day Fighter Scheme and is the familiar Dark Earth/Dark Green over Sky.

Cheers

Steve

 

[Guest]

Thanks everone for your kind replies. The camouflage details included in the kit are too small for me to use.

 

[Dave W]

Thanks for your reply. The camouflage details included in the kit are too small for me to use.

What do you mean too small to use?.If the pictures in the instructions are too small cant you just enlarge them on a photocopier?.

 

[Guest]

What do you mean too small to use?.If the pictures in the instructions are too small cant you just enlarge them on a photocopier?.

yes

 

[Dave W]

yes

Not sure what you want now Aiden.Anyway,here are some schemes from the Italeri 1/48 Sea Hurricane instructions.

 

[Guest]

Not sure what you want now Aiden.Anyway,here are some schemes from the Italeri 1/48 Sea Hurricane instructions.

Many thanks for these Dave, and to everyone who has supplied information. A veritable wealth which will most useful.

I'm most grateful; to you all.

 

[stona]

Aidan, the pattern remained the same whether Temperate Land Scheme, Day Fighter Scheme or any of the others. It was only the colours (and upper/lower demarcation on some FAA schemes) that changed.

Early on, applying mainly to the TLS, there was an A and B scheme which were mirror images of each other. The camouflage patterns were laid out in drawings before the war.

Cheers

Steve

 

[Guest]

The 43 Squadron option is for a Hurricane (it's an RAF squadron). In 1942 the camouflage would have been the day Fighter Scheme (DFS). Dark Green and Ocean Grey over Medium Sea Grey.The camouflage pattern didn't change from the earlier BOB version, just the colours and the addition of the yellow stripes on the leading edge of the wings and the Sky band around the fuselage in front of the fin.

I'll see if I can find a diagram somewhere.

Cheers

Steve

Just to be sure, did the DFS change in 1942 for Spitfires as well?

 

[flyjoe180]

Steve it would have changed in 1941 for front line Spitfires as well as Hurricanes.

 

[stona]

It changed for all aircraft in Fighter Command starting on 15th August 1941. The first to change were 10 Group, 11 Group and the Spitfire Wing of 12 Group. Being at the sharp end, these units were given priority. After the Sky debacle in 1940 no new colours were needed. The undersides became Medium Sea Grey and the Dark Earth on the upper surfaces was replaced with a mixed grey, 7:1 Medium Sea Grey and Night, all paints that should be available from existing stocks. The mixed grey was formalised as a new colour, Ocean Grey, some time later.

Here's a copy of an order explaining the new scheme dated 31st August and sent to Maintenance Command.



Cheers

Steve

 

[stona]

OOOoops. I can't edit my post above but when I wrote "all aircraft in Fighter Command" I should have specified that it was all those operating during the day. Night fighters would not have been included.

Cheers

Steve

 

[John]

Steve can you post again and see if you have the edit option back

 

[stona]

I most certainly can!

And I can edit it!

Cheers

Steve