discussion Stug fest 2019, the beginning of a true legend

[BattleshipBob]

Have a gold star!!

 

[Guest]

Hi Bob found these.


Prototype Sturmgeschutz III (0-serie) on Panzer III B chassis








Pete.

 

[BattleshipBob]

Hi Pete, great pics

Got those, not that many O pics around. Its hard to spot the brown patches, thats my next job, look and look again, such fun!!

 

[SteveH]

Morning Bob

Nice work on the "O", and upside down tracks could simply be the result of the heavy night on the schnapps before kitting her out?

You will have to leave the schnapps alone before modelling LOL.

I think you will be OK with a single panzer grey colour, the few reference photos I have seen don't have anything that could be a camo.

There aren't many more photos than you have on the thread already.

Always up for a good stug, is there a bad one?

My last completed one was a Stuh 42.

Have a good day

Regards

Steve H

 

[boatman]

Just noticed that the tracks are upside down, bugger!!!!!

Bob how can you tell that they are ?
an both sides ? an how come you never noticed it when you built it ? this is not a critisuim of your build sir
chris​

 

[BattleshipBob]

Hi Steve, all Stugs are fab !!! Thanks for the comment!

Morning Chris

If you look at the front pic Pete posted then mine you will see, no idea what happened! They were a pain to make so i will blame them lol

 

[Guest]

Bob how can you tell that they are ?

Panzer III (and IV) tracks have a definite direction to them: the sides of the link run diagonal, and should be going inward towards the top at the front.

View attachment 352828

You can see on this tank how they’re supposed to fit:

The bar is at the bottom of each link, and the track is “pinched” just below it because of the shape of the link below.

And here’s an example of the tracks the wrong way round:

View attachment 352829

 

[Steve Jones]

If you need any help on the camo let me know. I use Vallejo Armour Brown for the patches which goes well with the Panzergrau

 

[BattleshipBob]

Thanks Jakko

Hi Steve

Many thanks Steve

 

[SimonT]

I'm in Bob

made the crappy old Tamiya Stug IV that is totally inaccurate - chopped it all apart and spent ages correcting it in all directions then dropped something heavy on top of it just as it was coming up to completion :rolling:

Have a few other Stugs in the stash - Tamiya, Dragon and a Gunze Sangyo

 

[BattleshipBob]

Feel your pain Simon !!

Do you mean the GB??

 

[AlanG]

made the crappy old Tamiya Stug IV that is totally inaccurate

Hmm i was just looking at the Tamiya kit on evilbay. What about the revell kit then?? Any good? I plan to maybe do an IV with Star decals for the Waffen-SS units

 

[BattleshipBob]

Hi Al, the Tammy IV is terrible, built the new revell IV, not bad but not a patch on Dragon or Tamiya. Tamiya do nice 1/48 Stugs, heard good things about them. Although not accurate the Tammy 1/35 G is a delight to build

 

[AlanG]

Hi Al, the Tammy IV is terrible, built the new revell IV, not bad but not a patch on Dragon or Tamiya

Eh?!

I know it's not hard to do but i'm confused

 

[Guest]

What about the revell kit then?? Any good?

Revell’s StuG IIIs used to be reboxed Dragon kits, 15–20 years ago anyway. If they still sell StuGs, then I wouldn’t be surprised if they still are.

 

[SimonT]

Al - I think Bob got carried away with his typing. The Tamiya IV is not accurate - width wrong, height wrong, wheels too narrow, wheel spacing wrong plus loads of other things.

It is however very cheap and does look Stug IV ish if you are not bothered about it being accurate

 

[BattleshipBob]

Hi Al

Sorry Al, meant Tamiya G or 1/48 Stugs. I think the Revell Stug IV is a reboxed Italeri. Not bad but the new Dragon's are much better but of course more expensive

 

[AlanG]

Cheers guys. Cheap is the name of the game for me. I'd love to buy Dragon kits but they are out of my buying structure at the moment. Besides as it'll be my first armour foray then i don't want to make a hash of a decent kit.

 

[BattleshipBob]

Hash, no chance Al

 

[Guest]

Cheap is the name of the game for me. I'd love to buy Dragon kits but they are out of my buying structure at the moment. Besides as it'll be my first armour foray then i don't want to make a hash of a decent kit.

If you want 1:35 scale, you could get an older Italeri kit of the StuG IV. Sure, it’s a 1970s kit so not up to today’s standards, but Italeri’s kits were way better than Tamiya’s back then, detail-wise anyway (fit is a little inferior, but still good).

Looking at Italeri’s web site, I see they now sell a StuG IV with:—

- FULLY UPGRADED MOULDS -
- PHOTO-ETCHED FRET, LINK BY LINK TRACKS AND METAL GUN BARREL INCLUDED -

Which I suppose will be a lot more expensive than the older kit.

Alternatively, buy 1:72 or 1:76 scale Trumpeter has a bunch in 1:72, Italeri has a few as well (some being the old Esci kits), if you want three for the price of one (almost) then Plastic Soldier Company sells quite nice wargames models that go together well but also look good (if with somewhat thick detail), and there are probably plenty of other choices.