discussion Tamiya releasing new paint range

[Guest]

Tamiya have announced a new paint range of laquer based paints in 10 ml bottles. They seem similar to MRP paints, if so I will surely give them a go.



link with details below



https://tamiyablog.com/2017/10/the-...amiya-color-lacquer-paint-in-bottles-appears/

 

[peterairfix]

As I will as I use them more than any other paint

 

[Germanjim]

I'm wondering if they are like the mr color lacquer paint? For me mr color works really well but no doubt I'll try a few of the Tamika ones

 

[Guest]

It'll sure take some time before they are available in Europe though since it will have to pass chemicals tests and convince all the "worried people" that it's safe. This is the whole reason why we can't get the larger jars of Tamiya paint in Europe, but for some reason in 10ml size they are deemed safe.
I've yet to try MRP myself, mostly out of fear of loving it and having to replace my whole Tamiya setup, but I'm seriously thinking about it.

Anecdote: During the big "ban hysteria" of oil/enamel based paints being banned in Sweden a few years ago they even banned all traditional linseed oil paints that we've used for hundreds of years here, as it had the same classification as all other "toxic" paints. They even banned all artists oil paints that day. We were presented with acrylic replacements but luckily the royal restoration foundation (for lack of better translation) lobbied for a second round and leaving the traditional paints outside the ban since they were critical for every restoration job throughout the whole country and eventually the ban was sort of lifted, but only for "traditional" products.
The paint manufacturers here were also quick to reclassify some of the more important paints from "floor and trim" to "metal" because oil/enamel/solvent based paints were still allowed to be used on metal, and now we instead use "metal" paint on our window frames, door frames and floors and all is normal. I wonder how much that exercise cost the tax payers?

End of rant

p.s. I will certainly try these new paints from Tamiya - when they arrive in a year or two...

 

[Thorbrand]

Whatever happened to good old lead based paint

 

[papa 695]

Whatever happened to good old lead based paint

It got stolen and weighed in for scrap.

 

[Guest]

Interesting find. It all seems to have gone a little crazy with so many paint types now available.

 

[tr1ckey66]

Having just received my first order of MRP paints around (60 bottles) I’ll probably be sticking with that range for a while.
I’m always open to new ranges though and it will be interesting to see how they compare.

You’d think/hope that the 2 ranges could be mixed but I wouldn’t bet on it

Good news though

 

[John]

I’ve just got an email from the UK importer of Tamiya, theses will be available in the UK around Feb, they are 10ml jars and the basic colours will be £1.99

 

[Guest]

I’ve just got an email from the UK importer of Tamiya, theses will be available in the UK around Feb, they are 10ml jars and the basic colours will be £1.99

Well at least the price is acceptable so will be interested to try out a couple to see what they are like.

 

[BarryW]

Having just received my first order of MRP paints around (60 bottles) I’ll probably be sticking with that range for a while.
I’m always open to new ranges though and it will be interesting to see how they compare.

You’d think/hope that the 2 ranges could be mixed but I wouldn’t bet on it

Good news though

You won't regret it. If you are anything like me another order or two will soon follow!

It will be interesting to see what these new Tamiya are like though for me 10mil bottles are just too small which is why I have never even bothered to try Tamiya.

 

[Guest]

How do these paints compare with Tamiya's TS paints, which I have been using for years for gloss finishes? Both as to how they are used and what the finish looks like?

 

[John]

How do these paints compare with Tamiya's TS paints, which I have been using for years for gloss finishes? Both as to how they are used and what the finish looks like?

Their spray cans are laquer based so they should be the same

 

[Guest]

I have read BarryW's review, (http://www.scale-models.co.uk/threads/mrp-paint-detailed-review.28812/) but I still can't see any difference from use point of view of these paints. Barry says that the MRP range is compatible with "Tamiya paints using a laquer/alcohol based solvent", which I assume means Tamiya's TS range. His report states that the MRP range is (a) very thin, (b) includes metalizers which I don't think are in the TS range, and (c) some additional colours. Is that all?.

Surely Tamiya would not have launched a new range of solvent-based paints which give the same results as their TS range apart from the above three differences.

The amazon bottle shaker costs £30.99

 

[tr1ckey66]

You won't regret it. If you are anything like me another order or two will soon follow!

You're spot on, ordered another 30 (more or less) straight away!
I've not bothered with too many of their metallic colours though as I have an extensive range of Alclad paints already.

I'm looking forward to trying them. I'm expecting great things.

Cheers
P

 

[BarryW]

I have read BarryW's review, (http://www.scale-models.co.uk/threads/mrp-paint-detailed-review.28812/) but I still can't see any difference from use point of view of these paints. Barry says that the MRP range is compatible with "Tamiya paints using a laquer/alcohol based solvent", which I assume means Tamiya's TS range. His report states that the MRP range is (a) very thin, (b) includes metalizers which I don't think are in the TS range, and (c) some additional colours. Is that all?.

Surely Tamiya would not have launched a new range of solvent-based paints which give the same results as their TS range apart from the above three differences.

The amazon bottle shaker costs £30.99

Hi Steve
Sorry but I am not quite sure exactly what you are saying, I am a bit confused.

MRP are undeed very thin, almost an ink-like consistency ready to spray, dry quickly to a satin finish and are very forgiving. They are laquer based and are compatable with i.p.a. which can be used for clean-up. These are close in formulation to Gunze Mr Color laquer paints but the Gunze do need thinning for the airbrush unlike the MRP..

The Tamiya paints are thinned with i.p.a. not water and are also compatable with laquer thinners. From what I read the new range are the other way around, laquer based but possibly compatable with i.p.a for clean up. Making them even more like the MRP range.

All of these of course are distinctly different to the water based ranges such as Vallejo as i.p.a. can really clog up these paints if you try thinning with it. i.p.a. does have its uses with these of course and it is good for cleaning off dried paint (as is laquer).

Totally incompatable with the above of course are enamels which are unaffected by i.p.a. (not tried laquer on them...) Enamels are very good as weathering products applied over the above due to that incompatabiulity.

As for why Tamiya have brought out a laquer based range, I really dont know. I note that Hataka and AK Interactive are also doing the same thing.... Perhaps they are responding to the success of MRP laquers ....

Mind you MRP are also bringing out a range of water based acrylics as well, mirroring the colours of the laquer... I can see a lot of sense for them in this as the water based can be used alongside the laquer for easy brush touch ups etc.

The wonderful world of paint gets ever more complex with more and more choice....

 

[BarryW]

Well at least the price is acceptable so will be interested to try out a couple to see what they are like.

At £1.99 it makes them more expensive than MRP which have 30ml bottles making the new Tammy £0.98 per 30mls more expensive though I dont know yet if they need thinning for the airbrush or what the ratio is if they do, if they do then they may work out a bit cheaper though they will need thinning with something like Mr Levelling Thinner which is a bit costly itself. I suspect there is not much difference in the overall costs.

 

[Guest]

Thanks Barry.