discussion Your thoughts please gents?!?!

[Robert1968]

Yawn...up to him, just leave the swearing out. I like the German stuff, just something about it, looks rugged and meaty-not always the best in real life though.
We could say the same on this site. Too many aircraft and armour, not enough sci-fi blah blah...who gives a toss, build what you want cos you like it-end of. Silly bugger.

You were a blue peter child were you not Si

 

[Guest]

I must confess I find the amount of German WW2 available a bit disappointing but it is not surprising in the least.


Manufacturers will only supply to a demand of course which means that they are the most popular for some reason and I am sure that the reason is not particularly deep or political.


To me the reason is obvious. During WW2 German equipment was not all painted the same.


Modellers like painting things and using some artistic skills. Green and brown/grey stripes or just green isn't as interesting as blobby patches with splashes of raw colour now and then.


And it is quite clear from most of the models built, all German tanks were old rusty things, which are much nicer to do than pristine, well washed western tanks including modern German stuff as well. (Not many of those about either!)


Lets face it, the mottling patterns on a WW2 German aeroplane is a lot more fun than overall Olive Drab or Aluminium.


See, its not so strange after all.

 

[Guest]

Icabod I am glad that blobby patches and splashes are OK as I appear to do that quite a lot ...even without trying lol.

 

[Guest]

Lets face it, the mottling patterns on a WW2 German aeroplane is a lot more fun than overall Olive Drab or Aluminium.

Actually that is one reason I do not build German WW11 aircraft. Mottling I just hate the look of the things.


Built one ME109 at 1/72. It is always parked on the rear part of the shelf.


A Typhoon in its camouflage with Normandy landing rings looks the job, for me. A Swordfish with its top


camouflage, white sides and underbelly with those double wings,open cockpit, and all that rigging.


That to me is really worth the effort. Takes a lot more effort than a mottling pattern.


This is of course my very personal view.


Laurie

 

[Guest]

And it is quite clear from most of the models built, all German tanks were old rusty things,

Hmpff! I think you're waaay off the mark there!


Irrespective of how some modellers might depict their builds, German tanks were not " old, rusty things! "


Quite the opposite

 

[Guest]

The reason the world is the way it is now is because of fearmongerers, which is what he was attempting, the idea of a young person new to the hobby being told in a club environment not to speak to him or her because all they build is German armour and must have some dark purpose in doing so is quite a scary thought, what is that kid meant to think.

 

[Guest]

Now let's open the can of worm hehehehe lol


http://doogsmodels.com/2015/10/19/panel-lines-do-they-even-exist/


Don't shoot the messenger boys, just for information and fun

 

[PaulTRose]

hmmmm......major panel lines on aircraft i do, minor ones i cant be a******d...............cars i definatly do the panel lines, buts thats a different scale


as to weathering, sometimes i look at stuff people do and think 'theres too much, its overdone', even on my own i tend to over do it without realising....i like the less is more approach


im finding this guy a little bit annoying and im not sure why lol


*edit* i think its cos im getting the impression that hes one of those people who are never wrong, and his view is 'always right' and he always knows better......but that might be just how im interpreting it

 

[Dave Jay]

hmmmm......major panel lines on aircraft i do, minor ones i cant be a******d...............cars i definatly do the panel lines, buts thats a different scale
as to weathering, sometimes i look at stuff people do and think 'theres too much, its overdone', even on my own i tend to over do it without realising....i like the less is more approach


im finding this guy a little bit annoying and im not sure why lol


*edit* i think its cos im getting the impression that hes one of those people who are never wrong, and his view is 'always right' and he always knows better......but that might be just how im interpreting it

He's obviously a big head with a small brain cell rattling around in there somewhere!

 

[eddiesolo]

It is like any hobby, there are folk who just enjoy slapping stuff together, others that do their best or, how they like it in weathering/painting and then there are the guys that are semi or professional.


Nothing wrong with trying to get better but you have to do what you like in a style you like, if paint is applied with a roller who really cares. Enjoy what you make if it makes you happy.


It can be folk like him that spoil it for folk wanting to start or are timid.

 

[eddiesolo]

He's obviously a big head with a small brain cell rattling around in there somewhere!

Could be too much glue and paint fumes.

 

[Alan 45]

Well I agree about you not seeing panel lines on aircraft but can find no reason why someone should loose their temper about it lol


Reason to show panel lines , to show off the detail of the kit


Reason not to show panel lines , your crap at painting them

 

[eddiesolo]

Reason not to show panel lines , your crap at painting them

+ 1 on that count. I can only say again, why do you think my models are all knackered

 

[Alan 45]

+ 1 on that count. I can only say again, why do you think my models are all knackered

Reason I gave up aircraft

 

[Guest]

It is like any hobby, there are folk who just enjoy slapping stuff together, others that do their best or, how they like it in weathering/painting and then there are the guys that are semi or professional.
Nothing wrong with trying to get better but you have to do what you like in a style you like, if paint is applied with a roller who really cares. Enjoy what you make if it makes you happy.


It can be folk like him that spoil it for folk wanting to start or are timid.

I think Si you have a future career in philosophy.


Or is it Silosophy.


What ever Si you have it in a nutshell. What and how you have expressed it is perfect. We are many with different skills with a single purpose.


Laurie

 

[Guest]

We show panel lines on an aircraft for the same reason as we apply a wash to armour - SCALE!


On the real thing they may not be particularly visible, but on a much smaller scale representation they need greater emphasis.

 

[eddiesolo]

We show panel lines on an aircraft for the same reason as we apply a wash to armour - SCALE!
On the real thing they may not be particularly visible, but on a much smaller scale representation they need greater emphasis.

Agree Patrick, it does help to emphasise the model, and is a good technique to learn.

 

[Gern]

We show panel lines on an aircraft for the same reason as we apply a wash to armour - SCALE!
On the real thing they may not be particularly visible, but on a much smaller scale representation they need greater emphasis.

Absolutely right Patrick. Even though they are usually way off true scale on our models, we know they should be there and the model somehow doesn't look right without them.

 

[Guest]

I think that panel lines and all the other things we add are an artistic way of making the aircraft look like


the real thing.


Some things actually go further to make them look like "models" of perfection. Not knocking that


as I quite like them but they are not in my character to follow.


If you study a good art picture it all looks just right. But if you get up close the brush strokes are just


confused. The ability of the artist to produce an authentic realism (phew does that make sense). Just


the same as the model maker.


Laurie

 

[Alan 45]

I have to agree that an aircraft looks better with the panel lines than without


No one seems to moan if you paint a gun black without highlights even though they do look black from only feet away funny that