great info JR , amazing looking things arent they ( like Tim , still dont like the big ones !) The patterns are so intricate , we saw a big one on holiday last year in Ibiza and had to take a pic as it looked like it had a little love heart on its back . It had a web that was about 4 foot across  between two trees ! 
							
						
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 THANK YOU John an all you guys for the info but in all my nr 70 yrs livin in norfolk this is the first time ive ever seen this type of spider as i said in my post about that big bugger on our stairs seen loads of them but not as big as that an it must have been 4 inches across from leg to leg an i dint want to hurt it thats why i treid an capture it in a pint beer mug wish it had been in the daylight as i would have liked to study it as they facinnate me
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 Whatever you do, don’t put house spiders outside if you capture them. Put them somewhere in the loft or someplace else inside where they can make themselves useful killing the kinds of insects and things you don’t want in your house.Comment
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 WELL Jakko TBH i dint really feel like havin something that big crawlin about in the house an if jen had seen it well i dread to think what would have happend but i suppoce thats why it came back indoors as it was cold outside but i wish now i had put it the garage but then it might have made a bolt back in our house again like it did the first time but yes i aggree with you on killin flys an such yes would heve been usefull
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 Nuts to that. If he’s that big he’s looking to eat something bigger than flies….he either goes out or goes to spider heaven via a big damn brush…..they are alien I tells ya!!!Comment
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 It’s the way they move. Nothing else moves like them…..they are not of this planet……
 it’s amazing how many species of insects there are in general if you start looking….let alone arachnids.Comment
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 well guys i dont mind the spiders but im dead scared of wasps an bleedin hornets as i had a flamein big wasp building a nest in my work shed an i knocked the nest down an ran for it an thank goodness it an'it come back as i think they build sevaral then pick the best morgage lolComment
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 Some can hunt really well….they ain’t called bird eating spiders for nothing…..they catch ‘em….then eat ‘em…..mostly frogs, toads and snakes, but birds if they can get them…..and the Goliath bird eater can have a five inch body and weigh up to six ounces. That’s about the same as a half mug of milk :anguished:Comment
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 Thought of you this morning Chris when I went to do my gardening job.
 On a green garden waste bin was a nest of very young Orb Webs . Probably laid last year , you've most likely seen the yellow eggs sack in your travels placed in the oddest places
 
 So small,normally if they are under a leaf one tap and they all shoot up into a tight group.
 
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 I wanted to keep large spiders such as a female red knee tarantula . Easily kept and not aggressive. Strangely enough Christine said No , can't under stand why It would live in a sealed enclosure. :disappointed:Comment

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