discussion boatman's 1/72 HMS Tiger C20 build

[boatman]

Hi chris

the photos of her are great, she looks superb. i'm sure you must get a lot of appreciative comments when you sail her.

Peter

HI Peter yes there are a lot of people come an have a look an talk about the model an they say where can i buy one an i say you cant as they dont sell big models like this in the model shops as they have to be made from a moddler like me an that sort of knocks the wind out of the public's sails but they all seem to like her as the last sortie she was on only lasted 5 mins before she threw a prop shaft due maybe to how powerfull them new big motors are so at the moment im waiting for a new big 775 motor an ive fitted in a new universal jiont so until new motor comes she is u/s in dockyard
cheers pete for stoppin
ATB
chrisb

 

[Niho]

And i thought i was bonkers, go for it Chris!!!!

 

[boatman]

And i thought i was bonkers, go for it Chris!!!!

And i thought i was bonkers, go for it Chris!!!!

AN HI Nick yes to do this model lark i think we are all a bit bonkers lol me more so as to the model im tryin to get sailin an yes im goin for it as there is a lot of dosh invested in Tiger so she has got to go
ATB SIR
Chrisb

 

[boatman]

Which RC unit are you using? Is it possible to adjust the throttle to duel rate and have it set to 50% - 60%

HI Ian a carsons 14 channell T/X yes been lookin through my T/X instruckions booklet an yes i can reduce the power downward to about 70 % full power usein them duel rates but just got to hope it works on seperate channells an not all AS do some funktions may not work so will have a test when my new motor comes an fitted in her
cheers chrisb

 

[Ian M]

Normally if you can set duel rate on a unit it is on one ch at a time. It is mostly used in aircraft models but it comes in handy for most others too.

 

[boatman]

Normally if you can set duel rate on a unit it is on one ch at a time. It is mostly used in aircraft models but it comes in handy for most others too.

OH i hope so Ian as on my old 40meg the dual rates is on a lever an its100% flick it down an then just 50% but my new t/x not treid it yet
chrisb

 

[boatman]

HI GUYS well regards that bad motor well someone on mayhem said the stiff turning motor may need to be run in so i mounted it an screwed it down an ran it for 30 min an now its worst than ever an very stiff cant understand it as ive never had a motor do this before any suggetions ? guys
chrisb

 

[Tim Marlow]

HI GUYS well regards that bad motor well someone on mayhem said the stiff turning motor may need to be run in so i mounted it an screwed it down an ran it for 30 min an now its worst than ever an very stiff cant understand it as ive never had a motor do this before any suggetions ? guys
chrisb

Should get looser after running in…..but thirty minutes is quite short.
For my railway engines I used to run motors in for about twelve hours in each direction at around 25% speed/power. I would only go to full speed and power once I had done this.
Might sound silly, but does it need lubrication? Some motors used to have a felt pad on one bearing that needed a drop or two of machine oil.

 

[boatman]

Should get looser after running in…..but thirty minutes is quite short.
For my railway engines I used to run motors in for about twelve hours in each direction at around 25% speed/power. I would only go to full speed and power once I had done this.
Might sound silly, but does it need lubrication? Some motors used to have a felt pad on one bearing that needed a drop or two of machine oil.

well Tim ive put some 3 in one thin oil on the bearing an spayed in the motor some WD40 AN NO JOY but many thanks for yor info
chrisb

 

[Tim Marlow]

well Tim ive put some 3 in one thin oil on the bearing an spayed in the motor some WD40 AN NO JOY but many thanks for yor info
chrisb

Sounds like a manufacturing issue then Chris. The bearings may not be properly aligned.

 

[Mini Me]

Bin it and cut yer loss....no sense whipping a dead horse. Sounds to me it was a lemon from the git go.

 

[adt70hk]

Chris

Very sorry to hear of the motor problems but good to see that she made it onto the water!!

ATB

Andrew

 

[boatman]

Sounds like a manufacturing issue then Chris. The bearings may not be properly aligned.

YES Tim it maybe

Bin it and cut yer loss....no sense whipping a dead horse. Sounds to me it was a lemon from the git go.

an yes Rick im goin too as its near jammed

Chris

Very sorry to hear of the motor problems but good to see that she made it onto the water!!

ATB

Andrew

YES Andrew its one good thing but till i get that other new motor she is u/s
thank all
chrisb

 

[Tworrs]

Wow Chris, you are really having a time of it with those motors, I think I must have been lucky with mine.
Good luck sir.
ATB
Garry

 

[boatman]

Wow Chris, you are really having a time of it with those motors, I think I must have been lucky with mine.
Good luck sir.
ATB
Garry

HI Garry yes ive never had all these probs before an im beginnig to think of tiger is an unlucky ship as get one prob sorted an another pops up an i cannot understand why this has happend as the prop shaft spins freely so yes as Tim has said maybe a bad motor but the new motor wont get to me till november so a while to wait damm an how are you now sir ?
chrisb jen

 

[Tworrs]

HI Garry yes ive never had all these probs before an im beginnig to think of tiger is an unlucky ship as get one prob sorted an another pops up an i cannot understand why this has happend as the prop shaft spins freely so yes as Tim has said maybe a bad motor but the new motor wont get to me till november so a while to wait damm an how are you now sir ?
chrisb jen

Thanks for asking Chris, I'm pretty much back to my old self now, but the strangest thing is that my eyesight has suddenly changed, where I didn't need specs for driving I now do. Closeup is still pretty poor.
C'est la vie hey mate.
Cheers
Garry

 

[boatman]

Thanks for asking Chris, I'm pretty much back to my old self now, but the strangest thing is that my eyesight has suddenly changed, where I didn't need specs for driving I now do. Closeup is still pretty poor.
C'est la vie hey mate.
Cheers
Garry

HI Garry jen an i are very glad you are feeling better sir but eye sight is a problem when gettin on as i thought i had a eye problem but since ive had a new lence fitted in my eye its great as went to optistions a few months ago an he gave me an eyetest an i could read nearly all the letters on the chart bar the last line an he said i had very good sight for my age close up an long range so that worry was for nothing but to be on safe side i bought new glasses an they wernt cheap wow an well we hope you get on ok with your specs
ATB
chris jen

 

[boatman]

HI GUYS well im still tryin to sort my probs out on my tiger to begin regards that bad motor well its wasnt a bad motor as i found out after a lot of hassle someone on mayhem said release the motor mounting screws as he said sometimethe manufactuer makes them a shay to long an so i did an yes that was the trouble the mountin bolt must have been about a mm to long an it was hittin agaist the spinning armercher in the motor so fitted in new fixin bolt an the motor runs ok foeward an back an was goin to fit it back in the ship

but out of the blue the new motor has turned up by postie so ive fitted that in an it runs great so i thought ok thats that prob sorted but NO as i have been running the motors ive now found out why that universal jiont broke
an i now think there is a problem in the prop shaft as when running the motors the brass couplin that is screwed ontothe prop shaft was gettin very hot an i think thats why the U/J FAILED as it got hot an weakened the plastic U/J AN THEN THE PINS JUST PULLED THROUGH the mountings an it failed
SO why the prop shaft well it may be the bearing have broke up or the prop shaft grease has gone dry an hard in the tube an not lubicatein the prop shaft so i may have to remove said shaft an sqirt in some new grease to lubricate the shaft an stop it gettin hot as none of the othe 3 prop shaft get hot so if greasin the shaft fails then i may have to withdraw the shaft if i can an fit in a new one OH DEAR but onward an up
chrisb

 

[scottie3158]

HI GUYS well im still tryin to sort my probs out on my tiger to begin regards that bad motor well its wasnt a bad motor as i found out after a lot of hassle someone on mayhem said release the motor mounting screws as he said sometimethe manufactuer makes them a shay to long an so i did an yes that was the trouble the mountin bolt must have been about a mm to long an it was hittin agaist the spinning armercher in the motor so fitted in new fixin bolt an the motor runs ok foeward an back an was goin to fit it back in the ship

but out of the blue the new motor has turned up by postie so ive fitted that in an it runs great so i thought ok thats that prob sorted but NO as i have been running the motors ive now found out why that universal jiont broke
an i now think there is a problem in the prop shaft as when running the motors the brass couplin that is screwed ontothe prop shaft was gettin very hot an i think thats why the U/J FAILED as it got hot an weakened the plastic U/J AN THEN THE PINS JUST PULLED THROUGH the mountings an it failed
SO why the prop shaft well it may be the bearing have broke up or the prop shaft grease has gone dry an hard in the tube an not lubicatein the prop shaft so i may have to remove said shaft an sqirt in some new grease to lubricate the shaft an stop it gettin hot as none of the othe 3 prop shaft get hot so if greasin the shaft fails then i may have to withdraw the shaft if i can an fit in a new one OH DEAR but onward an up
chrisb

Chris,
Good to hear you are getting the problems identified and sorted.

 

[Jim R]

Still some issues Chris but they are straightforward so I'm sure they will be easy to fix. Fingers crossed for you.