discussion Comet-ed

[Guest]

Of course, a few decades of storing one who-knows-where, definitely not washing it, and the blandness is gone:



This is a real one (produced post-war) that’s in the collection of a museum near where I live. Not sure you’d get away with having your overall look like that in service, though, especially in peacetime :smiling3:

Unless you were on duty recovery, then the Red Caps would be very nice to you !

 

[Guest]

Great work once again Andy, love the ply surround .
Bridge is good .

 

[Andy T]

Thanks Paul & John.

I've been conscripted into a day of gardening at mums today so may not make much progress. Will see how the weather goes.

 

[The Smythe Meister]

OK, so after a brief distraction I'm back on with this.

I knocked the bridge together today. It's a little bit short but blame Starbucks for that :smiling5: I've no idea what I'm doing but tried to make it look like a bridge whilst keeping it weak enough that I could smash it to pieces. I'm sure it would have more cross bracing in real life but I have plenty of extra stirring sticks timber to add for effect if it needs it.



I gave it a few light washes in grey, brown, green & black to give it a bit of colour and also brush painted the base in some "muddy" colours as a foundation.



Next job is to smash it to pieces, and thankfully I have the perfect tool for that, my wife! My son & I have banned her from touching any models as she has a knack for breaking anything, so perfect for the job in hand I think.

That's looking excellent Andy,really good start on the bridge
...... Far too hot for gardening mate, modelling is the perfectly paced activity for this weather....
.... well, that's what I'm telling Rach anyway. !!

 

[Andy T]

I'd agree but the stars are in alignment today lol

Trying to organise a day whem I'm not working, mum isn't away on holiday, and my brother isn't flying around the country jumping out of a helicopter to rescue people has been a nightmare, so it's now or never :smiling5:

And thanks. Plenty more to do but it's taking shape.

 

[Andy T]

Well the bridge destruction didn't quite go to plan lol. I knocked it onto the floor, which, given the deliberately weak construction didn't end well! :smiling5:


I think I managed to salvage something out of it though



And with the Comet in place



It clearly needs some more paintwork once the glue has dried but it could have been worse. Thankfully some will be hidden under murky water too. I need to reposition the guy in the turret as he's leaning at an awkward angle. I took a guess and didn't quite get it right.


And then a bit of a sneak peek with the main elements in place. Again, much more paint & weathering effects needed to tie the vehicles in with the base but I think I'm starting to see light at the end of the tunnel

 

[outrunner]

Great stuff Andy, the bridge looks OK to me as it has obviously collapsed when the full weight of the tank was on it.

Andy.

 

[Mini Me]

Actually Andy, I think it looks pretty "natural" for a collapsed bridge. Once you've slung some weather at it and got the mucky water in place, it should really start looking the part! :thumb2: :thumb2:

 

[Andy T]

Thanks guys, it certainly looks a whole load better than the bundle of sticks I started with :smiling5:

Getting it to sit right with the tracks and river bed took some manipulation but I think I've made it work somewhat :smiling3:

 

[outrunner]

I don't want to sound critical Andy but looking at the picture again I think you should attack the posts and end parts of the bridge as it looks like they have been sawed off as opposed to being broken when it collapsed.

Andy.

 

[Andy T]

Thanks for that Andy and I know exactly what you mean, a by product of its unplanned crash landing really. If you look a few posts back at how it was constructed, the rail sat on top of the posts. After the fall there were lumps of CA glue on top of each post that I had to sand off so it does look far too clean of a break at the minute rather than like a joint that's failed as I wanted.

I was hoping paint effects and a few nail holes would disguise it but now that you mention it, maybe adding some thin wire pins to emulate nails/screws that have been ripped out would help the illusion even more?

 

[rtfoe]

Hi Andy, great progress. Love it so far...the accident works.

Have been lurking and decided to put my 2 cents in. As mentioned by the other Andy and your suggestion of protruding nails is good perhaps two beams in between the post against the stone wall with more nails and heavy damage may help.
Always liked your neat approach and the ply surround that many seem to forget to apply to their bases. I can already picture the vegetation on the banks and the water effects.

Cheers,
Wabble.

 

[Andy T]

Thanks Richard, I'll see what I can do with it later.

Don't be expecting too much in the way of vegetation though, I wouldn't know where to start :smiling5:

 

[Jim R]

All looking very good to me Andy. Damage of any sort, whether to buildings, vehicles or even bridges, is hard to make look convincing. You're certainly headed in the right direction.

 

[Andy the Sheep]

Great progress Andy and a very realistic scene. Looking forward to the next steps.

 

[Andy T]

Thanks Jim & Andrea, great to see that you're still with me :smiling4:

If I'm honest this stopped being fun some time ago and slogging away at a chore doesn't help the creative juices very much, but I'll keep battling on and hopefully the mojo will return. It'll definitely be a long time before I tackle anything this complex again :smiling5:

This afternoon I've been drilling the nail holes in each plank and I've added some mangled copper wire pieces to the tops of the posts to look like failed fixings (breaking a pair of nippers in the process)

 

[Andy T]

Okay, hands up, I now realise why I was having such a hard time manipulating the wire I was using for my fixings, and why they've chipped the blades on my nippers. It appears I'd forgotten about having 2 types of 0.8mm wire. One is nice soft copper, the other is copper clad steel MIG welding wire! Guess which one I was using :tired:

After giving myself a good talking to I dug out some thinner 0.4 lead wire to use for the smaller plank fixings, and also chewed the post ends with a pair of pliers, as much as I could without ripping them from the base anyway.





I've not done the ones that'll be hidden by the tank or underwater but I think it's an improvement.

I'm still undecided about where to go with the paint on this. I like the effect of the newly uncovered wood looking fresh compared the the faded, exposed sections, but it still doesn't look quite right to me yet. However, bearing in mind most of it will be covered up I may be over thinking it!

 

[Mini Me]

That came out most excellent Andy, it will definitely look the "bomb" in the final rendition! :thumb2:

 

[Guest]

I like the look of that bridge, IMHO it’s convincing already. Though you may want to paint damaged wood where the tank’s tracks rode over it, as I doubt the steel would have been kind to simple wooden planks.

 

[scottie3158]

Andy Looking good buddy.