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Jan 1st Impact on our Hobby

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Archetype said:
Sorry Murf, wasn't meant to be cryptic!
It was just my way of saying that I'll only buy kits when I need them.
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No need to apologise Chris. I should have worked that out. Wise strategy that given the size of my own stash I have no hope of emulating. Mind you, it's quite a privilege to sit back after the workbench is cleared and ask oneself which model to start next. I went through that process this morning and it is nice to have such a huge choice.

Cheers,

Murfie
 
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You're dead right, it is nice to do that. However I suffer from 'option paralysis', where given too many options I can't make a decision.
 
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Archetype said:
You're dead right, it is nice to do that. However I suffer from 'option paralysis', where given too many options I can't make a decision.
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That's nearly as bad as a dose of FOMO (Fear of Missing Out) when it comes to special editions.
 
I very much doubt that it will have much impact at all on the hobby. We will still trade with the EU as we do with other non-EU countries. There could be some price adjustments, some up and some down. Our trade deals with Singapore and Japan, for instance, may be helpful. You lose some, win some. The upsides, in longer term I am sure will outweigh the downsides.
 
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BarryW said:
I very much doubt that it will have much impact at all on the hobby. We will still trade with the EU as we do with other non-EU countries. There could be some price adjustments, some up and some down. Our trade deals with Singapore and Japan, for instance, may be helpful. You lose some, win some. The upsides, in longer term I am sure will outweigh the downsides.
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Let's hope so Barry.
 
Hi Guys

this is something I have had to live with for a few years. guernsey was caught as a 'sacrificial lamb' a few years ago when the £15 Low Value Consignment Relief was removed from good from the Channel Islands. VAT is due on anything we sell from Guernsey into the UK. Not only new stuff, like my busts, but also if I were to sel any of my stash on Ebay! The VAT at 20% is even due on the postage, so an item sold for £20 plus £3.90 postsge will attract VAt on the full £23.90. We can pre-pay the VAT when posting anything so there are no delays for the recipient. Unfortunately our customs police it quite effectively - they have been known to open packets to check!

the change should not impact on anything sold by a UK based retailer since they should already by charging VAT since models are not an exempt item. (unless the retailer has a turnover less than £80k p.a. and they register for exemption).

Peter
 
Airfix and Hornby have just made announcements on the state of play as of today until january 4th.
 
To a large degree I agree with Barry, in most cases it will make very little difference. What I have noticed as an expat who still likes to get one or two bits from the UK, is an increasing number of online suppliers who no longer ship outside the UK, presumably they have decided it is not worth the hassle of dealing with the additional paperwork going forwards.
 
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There will be little difference which will only reflect in the additional importation overheads that may well not be absorbed. However, if like me, you occasionally buy direct from Eduard (the only way to acquire Overtree versions) or Special Hobby, every parcel will cop a £12 processing charge which I don't find trivial.
 
An interesting subject. Living in Denmark I can still enjoy the "open market" I hope that Airfix figure things out as at the moment they are the only things I will miss out on...

I suspect that a lot of "Gifts" are soon to be on their way to the UK.
 
Murfie said:
There will be little difference which will only reflect in the additional importation overheads that may well not be absorbed. However, if like me, you occasionally buy direct from Eduard (the only way to acquire Overtree versions) or Special Hobby, every parcel will cop a £12 processing charge which I don't find trivial.
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Not necessarily. My detailing set from Russia, which of course is outside the EU and cost £30, arrived no problem and in the past when I have ordered kits from places like Hong Kong costing up to £100 there has not been an issue. I think I have been caught out twice over the years. There is no reason to think that you will get clobbered every time you order something from an EU country.
 
But those countries may well have trade deals with the EU Barry. Once the UK leaves the EU we won’t be part of those deals and will revert back to World Trade rules until we negotiate our own. I must admit, everything seems a little last minute dot com considering this has been heading our way for a year....
 
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The main point for me is that these other trade routes are already well established, where as our new relationship with the EU is completely unknown, so we can't make any worthwhile predictions based on assumptions that they'll want to trade with us in the same way as everyone else and that we'll accept it. Look at what's happening with fishing.

On the other hand, logic suggests that in the end it will probably fall in line with ROW, but in the very short term we just don't know.

What I'd like to know is where Boris' "oven ready" deal is...and whether it made allowance for hobbyists!
 
Tim Marlow said:
But those countries may well have trade deals with the EU Barry. Once the UK leaves the EU we won’t be part of those deals and will revert back to World Trade rules until we negotiate our own. I must admit, everything seems a little last minute dot com considering this has been heading our way for a year....
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Tim - No, this is nothing to do with a trade deal. It is a matter of luck whether something from Hong Kong gets caught or not, sometimes I have been clobbered and sometimes not, and I am pretty sure that the EU dont have a deal with Russia,.
 
Archetype said:
The main point for me is that these other trade routes are already well established, where as our new relationship with the EU is completely unknown, so we can't make any worthwhile predictions based on assumptions that they'll want to trade with us in the same way as everyone else and that we'll accept it. Look at what's happening with fishing.

On the other hand, logic suggests that in the end it will probably fall in line with ROW, but in the very short term we just don't know.

What I'd like to know is where Boris' "oven ready" deal is...and whether it made allowance for hobbyists!
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The oven ready deal was actually a reference to the withdrawal agreement not a trade deal.
 
Sorry , he used the word deal , he did that to allow himself a get out.
If he meant he had an "oven ready agreement", that is what he should have said.
Boris writes a pro and an against argument for all things , then chooses one.

I will agree that sometimes he does pick a good phrase like ''f**k business" , he really has done , most still don't have enough info to know what import taxes will definitely be placed on goods coming in, and good companies are no longer sending things that will arrive after 1st January and incur whatever customs etc charges will be invoked.
 
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