discussion Neo or revolution cr?

[Guest]

ok so this is my first airbrush purchase. I Don't want to spend an absolute fortune so I have decided on 2 choices. Neo because of the price or that little bit extra for the revolution cr?


What are people's thoughts ?

 

[Guest]

Definitely the Revolution CR. The revolution CR's performance is way superior to the Neo's. However, if you can add an extra $50, go for the Iwata Eclipse HP-CS. This is my main airbrush along with the Iwata Hi line. If I were you, I would get and Eclipse. The nozzle set is excellent. Here are some pics. Iwata warranty and customer service rocks. Go for the Revolution, or preferably, the Eclipse. The eclipse is the standard modelling airbrush to use.


John

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[PaulTRose]

im prejudiced against the neo......wasted money on one...........its not put me off iwatas but i wouldnt have a neo again.....but then ive just bought an Aztek and loving it

 

[Guest]

im prejudiced against the neo......wasted money on one...........its not put me off iwatas but i wouldnt have a neo again.....but then ive just bought an Aztek and loving it

You will find that after a year, you will not like the Aztecs after all. I had one, but after a year, my trigger gummed up and the internal structure broke. Aztec voided the warranty because They assumed I had opened it up! What sort of crap is that? Additionally, they are not as durable as Iwata's, and you will find they are susceptible to blockages.


John

 

[Guest]

To be fair it depends on what paints and thinners/cleaners your going to use , if using only acrylic/water based paints and cleaner a Neo is fine , if you plan to use enamel/solvent paints you have to use white spirit or cellulose cleaner/thinners to clean then the CR is the way to go as you can use any paint .


Reason being :- a Neo has rubber O rings and seals which will break down over time when using hot cleaners (cellulose etc), the Revolution CR has Teflon seals and is a lot more durable .


Hope this helps


Richy

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the info guys. Think it's going to be the revolution then.


John I would have probably gone for the eclipse, but as I need to get everything from the booth to the paints, the cost is stacking up quickly and I want a little bit of money for a couple more models.


Unless the scale model shop do deals for new customers

 

[John]

Thanks for the info guys. Think it's going to be the revolution then.
John I would have probably gone for the eclipse, but as I need to get everything from the booth to the paints, the cost is stacking up quickly and I want a little bit of money for a couple more models.


Unless the scale model shop do deals for new customers

I'm always willing to do a deal, for old and new customers

 

[Guest]

Paul if you can pay that bit extra go for an Iwata Eclise HPBS.


I have tried 2 H & S brushes. I also have 3 Iwata two of which are supposedly better or bluntly more expensive than the HPBS.


The HPBS is a revelation. First it is small ie not as long as your average brush. It can get into smaller spaces. After 3 years with H & S then 3 Iwata the HPBS is now the only one I use for all work as it is such a delight to work with. Ocassionally in weathering I have gone back to the more expensive one with smaller needle/nozzle only to resort back to the HPBS.


The finish is superb much better than the H and S brushes. The most close brush that I have tried is the HP CS and in comparison to the HP BS it is a monster to handle.


The HPBS has a small cup the larger cups on the average Iwata stick up high in visions way especially on close work. It also allows access into intricate corners etc.. Not to worry about the smaller cup there will be few occasions you would run out of paint in model making. If so it is so easy to top up.


For general paint coverage for large paint jobs it is perfect. For weathering it is equally good. You can get down to much less than an inch with great control over the paint flow.


It has a .35 needle/nozzle (an optional extra is a .5) which is perfect for model making and medium heavy paints ie acrylics Vallejo Lifecolor etc.


http://www.scalemodelshop.co.uk/iwata-eclipse-bs-airbrush-iw-ecl-bs.html


Laurie

 

[Guest]

Paul if you can pay that bit extra go for an Iwata Eclise HPBS.
I have tried 2 H & S brushes. I also have 3 Iwata two of which are supposedly better or bluntly more expensive than the HPBS.


The HPBS is a revelation. First it is small ie not as long as your average brush. It can get into smaller spaces. After 3 years with H & S then 3 Iwata the HPBS is now the only one I use for all work as it is such a delight to work with. Ocassionally in weathering I have gone back to the more expensive one with smaller needle/nozzle only to resort back to the HPBS.


The finish is superb much better than the H and S brushes. The most close brush that I have tried is the HP CS and in comparison to the HP BS it is a monster to handle.


The HPBS has a small cup the larger cups on the average Iwata stick up high in visions way especially on close work. It also allows access into intricate corners etc.. Not to worry about the smaller cup there will be few occasions you would run out of paint in model making. If so it is so easy to top up.


For general paint coverage for large paint jobs it is perfect. For weathering it is equally good. You can get down to much less than an inch with great control over the paint flow.


It has a .35 needle/nozzle (an optional extra is a .5) which is perfect for model making and medium heavy paints ie acrylics Vallejo Lifecolor etc.


http://www.scalemodelshop.co.uk/iwata-eclipse-bs-airbrush-iw-ecl-bs.html


Laurie

Yes. The eclipse series is totally suited to modelling. It has been my mainstay for many years.


John

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the info guys. Think it's going to be the revolution then.
John I would have probably gone for the eclipse, but as I need to get everything from the booth to the paints, the cost is stacking up quickly and I want a little bit of money for a couple more models.


Unless the scale model shop do deals for new customers

Also, please note that if you get an eclipse, you probably will not need another airbrush for at least 8years. After that, you might want to get a finer brush. The Eclipse has a .35mm nozzle, while the revolution has a .4mm nozzle. If you have to trade a few models off for this, go for it.


John

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the info Laurie but that is well out of my price range at the moment. I'm pushing it a bit looking at the eclipse really

 

[Guest]

To upgrade to a .3mm needle on the revolution, you will have to add an extra £20-30 on it. The eclipse comes with it's own. Take this into account.


John

Thanks for the info Laurie but that is well out of my price range at the moment. I'm pushing it a bit looking at the eclipse really

 

[Guest]

This is an incredibly good price for an eclipse and it has free shipping. Check it out


http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-ANEST-iwata-Airbrush-Eclipse-HP-CS-Double-Action-0-3mm-7ml-Japan-F-S-/301534617284?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4634dd1ec4


Cheers, John

 

[Guest]

Also, please note that if you get an eclipse, you probably will not need another airbrush for at least 8years. After that, you might want to get a finer brush. The Eclipse has a .35mm nozzle, while the revolution has a .4mm nozzle. If you have to trade a few models off for this, go for it.
John

Go with that. Actually in my opinion you will never need another airbrush for model making. For me it is the most important tool as it provides the finishes to any model. So buy the best though obviously what you can afford.


What ever you do make sure that the Iwata is an "Iwata" where ever you egt it Paul !


From what I have read on this forum you are better off without a Neo as there have been a number of members saying they are not pleased. Neo is made by an outside company and badged Iwata.


You have not mentioned a compressor Paul ?


Laurie

 

[Guest]

Don't worry Laurier, I've got my eye on a couple as186 compressors and one of them portable spray booths on eBay at the minute. These will be the only items I will be purchasing from else where just to keep the costs down, all the other items I shall be purchasing from the scale model shop.

 

[Guest]

Don't worry Laurier, I've got my eye on a couple as186 compressors and one of them portable spray booths on eBay at the minute. These will be the only items I will be purchasing from else where just to keep the costs down, all the other items I shall be purchasing from the scale model shop.

Most of us here use this one or a variation. They are cheap Chinese and it depends on your luck how long they last as I well know. In the end providing they pump out controllable air. Hope all goes well Paul as airbrushing does make a great difference (apologies to all the hand brush painters).


Laurie

 

[Dave W]

I've got a Revolution CR and its a good airbrush.Im not very skilled at airbrush work.I tend to mask everything ,including camo patterns.And I use it with the standard 0.5mm nozzle.I bought a 0.3mm nozzle and needle, but can't get on with it.So if I can get good results with this airbrush,anyone can.If I was you I'd get one.

 

[John]

This is an incredibly good price for an eclipse and it has free shipping. Check it out

It's coming from Australia, once it comes in to the county if customs catch it, and they usually do there will be import duty and other taxes, it's not always a good deal

 

[aaron]

Cheap asian a/b all the way for me. I'm heading into my 3rd year with mine not skipping a beat.

 

[Wong Ryan]

I wanted to replace my Sparmax 0.3mm with the Neo. But heard that Neo is not really an Iwata, I forked out a bit more for the Eclipse. I had tried the Eclipse HP-CS before, and it is a great gun... but I chose the HP-SBS (side cup version), as those with gravity cup blocks my view while spraying.


On a side note, I also have an HP-SB Plus, it is a 0.2mm for precision spray work...all I can say is, Iwata's quality is really good.