discussion Panther winter camo.

[booq]

Hi. I am looking to paint my Panther in eastern front winter camouflage. I have found a couple of examples of models on YouTube but not the exact colour used. Just a matt white or an off white? Any ideas? I believe the paint was just sprayed on for winter and then scrubbed off in spring so I'm thinking brilliant gloss white is not the way to go. I have found an pic of an actual one in white with what looks to be a grey zigzag on it which I might give a go once the white is on. Any advice is welcome.

 

[PaulTRose]

German paint was designed to applied 'in the field' by what ever means was at hand........ In repair areas it was sprayed on.... By the troops it was by brush, rags even sweeping brush........ Also the paint came as a paste that was diluted by what ever was at hand..., didnt matter if it was river water, petrol or high octane aviation fuel!

So actual precise colour is impossible lol......... Id go for an off white

Hope you share with us as you progress

 

[PaulTRose]

That any help?

 

[booq]

Yes thanks. A finish that looks like it was applied by a sweeping brush will suite my airbrushing skills no end. Not sure if I can attach this pic but its the look I am going for and then maybe the grey zigzag. Blast some sooty black out through the vents, exhausts and gun muzzle and I hope it will look pretty good.

 

[langy71]

If memory serves , when I did my Panther 'winter cat' dio a while back I painted the base model in 'standard' cam colours, a coat of satin varnish and then a coat of this stuff..
Mig Ammo Acrylic Paint - A.MIG-0024 Washable White Camo

The paint is designed / made to be washed off with water to give a weathered effect, so it allowed me to scrub off enough 'white' to give the washed out look I wanted.. which was a kind of a 'applied in haste' effect.


Pictures added for reference...

 

[booq]

Hi, that's just what I looking for. Ive got some ghost grey (from a U boat build)I was thinking of mixing with some matt white. The plan is to prime it, spray it in the standard yellow then slap dash the white camo on as in the field as PaulTRose said. The snow on the tracks looks really good. What did you use?

 

[Steven000]

Probably also a good idea to first try out the wintercamo on a test-piece, something like an old model or a cheap toy car that's been painted in primer/dark yellow. My first winter-weathering was quite overdone... Have fun, cheers

 

[langy71]

Hi, that's just what I looking for. Ive got some ghost grey (from a U boat build)I was thinking of mixing with some matt white. The plan is to prime it, spray it in the standard yellow then slap dash the white camo on as in the field as PaulTRose said. The snow on the tracks looks really good. What did you use?

if memory serves...(I'm reying a lot on the old brain these days...lol)... I used this kind of stuff, https://www.scalemodelshop.co.uk/woodland-scenics-snow-g6424/

I'd certainly agree with Steven000 about doing a test run on a bit of scrap /etc just to get a feel for how much you want to use,

Also be wary / careful of breathing this stuff in when using it as it's micro small...(microballons) and it may cause some serious irritation to your airways, ...treat it like dry resin dust, and use some form of protection.
it's all good after it's dried
you apply it to an adhesive base..I think I used hairspray or watered down white pva glue to stick it down and then a further coat of hairspray to seal it all in.

the rainforest site.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Army-Painter-Battlefield-Essential-Miniature/dp/B001B4R7AU/ref=asc_df_B001B4R7AU?mcid=f08761605f4c389fa2eedaf ae40e010f&tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=697176003270&hvpos=&hvnetw = g&hvrand=954740158984521577&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqm t= &hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=1007110&h vta rgid=pla-568172318782&psc=1&hvocijid=954740158984521577-B001B4R7AU-&hvexpln=0&gad_source=4

 

[langy71]

Just spotted your plan for painting this,

and figured I'd share how i did this..

If you are using 'standard / normal acrylic' paint (ieTamiya flat white..XF-2) then apply a coat of chipping medium or cheap hairspray over the model before you add the snow cam', leave to dry for 10 mins, and then scrub at the paint with a wet paintbrush,
the water will reactive the hairpray below the paint and it'll chip off in a pretty convincing way.. softly softly is the way to go..

the ammo /mig paint already listed doesn't need a 'chipping base' as it's designed to react to plain water.

apologies if you are already aware of this method...'hair spray technique' . just passing on stuff that I've learned from this site..

 

[booq]

Thanks all for your help. It's really nice people help and share their knowledge, wins and mistakes. This is a really nice forum.