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Spitfire F/Mk.VII (Tartan Version)

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Polux, what have you got yourself into here, i'm really looking forward to seeing this creation emerge. :) :)
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Yes Pollux this is nearly as bazaar as taking on the unthinkable hypothetical building of an ME109 with bi plane wings & toothbrush skids. I did in my dreams, sorry nightmares, live this I awoke shocked ! But not before seeing it take off & --------------woke up.

Laurie
 
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Hi Polux, Ignore all the talk of Tartans, it has to be a Clanranald, and the tail has to have a thistle emblum, O.K. go for it. DerekView attachment 51291

p.s. Only joking
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Hi Derek! Can you explain more about the thislte please!

It's a complement? It's the final 'color' of tartan?

I understand I don't have to draw this flower... If not I do the 'cheat' of sticker... :puppet:

Thanks for all, friends

Polux
 
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I have obtained it friends!!

Have the sequence to create the tartan!!

I have throw a small sample in a sheet of plastic.

First primed and then paint a coat of blue. I have put two sizes of type (3mm and 6mm). The major type is for the big squares and the 3mm for the wings of these. I have stuck the big, and then the small one successively in horizontally. Later the same thing superposed in vertical. The squares work out perfect, only it's necessary to cut with a cutter each one. This way I have painted little by little every square.

The result is gratifying!!

Tomorrow I will be able to publish a few photos that show the process (I have to buy a PC for my house ....). Probably it will look like to you a not 'polished" work, but it has been of great help for my, I have discovered many things that I must remember when I paints on the plane.

The sample is of 3X3 squares, very small!! This one is painted with brush, Without a lot of perfectionism, I have to say... (7 colors in 2cm ... the airbrush is better in the box !!)

The first conclusion is that the primed doesn't support the exit of the type, the fault is also a time of dried correctly. After primed the plane I will paint with a coat of varnish, then the first coat of color and varnish again.

The choice of colors is very important, on having done the sample in brush the colors are seen more intense and slightly homogeneous.

To be very careful with the cutter, not to spoil the sal of the plane or to mark a wound that would separate the union of both paintings.

I must paint one of the type of different color, to facilitate to see where it begins the small one and ends the major one (they go completely together).

The final lines of 1mm I'm not sure how end it, type or a felt-tip pen.

Well, it's better I stop here!!!

Sorry, I'm very deceived, and believe that I can obtain it.

Thanks for all

Polux
 
Goodness Polux, that sounds complicated, and have you figured out how you are going to paint the complex curves like the wing root, that'll be something to see when you pull that off.

Looking forward to seeing it mate.

Tony
 
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Hi Derek! Can you explain more about the thislte please!It's a complement? It's the final 'color' of tartan?

I understand I don't have to draw this flower... If not I do the 'cheat' of sticker... :puppet:

Thanks for all, friends

Polux
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As Andrew says, the Thistle is the national emblem of Scotland, just as The national Emblem of Spain is the Spanish Osborne Bull. For England it is the Rose, for Wales the Leek and Ireland the Shamrock.

Good luck, look forward to watching your progress as always. With your attention to detail, I am sure the results will be great. Derek
 
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I would have thought that tartan paint would have been easier to use...
 
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Andrew that is brilliant !

Ingenuity once again raises it self to new heights on this forum.

Laurie
 
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That is expensive stuff Andrew. This type is so cheap One coat Tartan Paint, matt emulsion Hay, Gordon, Modern Hay and MacCloud, UK.

Matter of interest they also stock very high quality elbow grease (all colours including transparent) in Vallejo type squeeze a drop containers for the casual user. All on line as well.

Laurie

PS they also say it contains that magic ingredient Haggis. Suppose it helps its spread ability or prehaps it just take away the aroma of the paint.
 
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Hi to all Friends, sorry for the delay!!

Do not lose heart on having seen the result.

It's deceitful … the squares are seen well. It was only a test, so it does not hope that every picture was drying off, was removing the type without delay and returning to use oak of the painting still for drying, and painting with brush without any kind of perfection.

The lines more thin, well … .you one sees … .without piety and worry!!!

I believe the most difficult thing it is the correct choice of the colors!!!!

Regards

Polux

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Fantastic!! it looks perfect to me polux , cant wait to see the spitfire in this!, cheers tony
 
That's great!

You can make up your own tartan.

Most of the accepted ones are 19th Century inventions anyway. After the defeat of the Highland/Jacobite army by British government forces at the battle of Culloden (1746) the Scots were not allowed to wear tartan for about 30 years and most of the original clan patterns were lost. As an Englishman the repression of Highland/Scottish culture is not something I am proud of.

Tartan (and Scotland) became very popular with the British aristocracy during the reign of Queen Victoria (1837-1901) at which time a completely forged book of Scottish tartan patterns mysteriously appeared.Those patterns have become those accepted for the clan tartans to this day.

Cheers

Steve
 
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you know why scottish people were mad in the 1300s its coz designing the tartan cloth weave sent you mad,lets hope you have a madhouse that deals with this kind of madness,in other words looks good but the madness will take over lol

mobear
 
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You mean you haven't seen the tartan paint before?
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* Reading the post .... well, seeing the pot of painting I have discovered my mistake. The blue square does ' 3X3 ' and the green one '2X2'. They are not equal as mine, in the plane I will do this format.

Thank you very much to all for your confidence, I must not trump you all!!!

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Polux
 
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That's great! You can make up your own tartan.

Most of the accepted ones are 19th Century inventions anyway. After the defeat of the Highland/Jacobite army by British government forces at the battle of Culloden (1746) the Scots were not allowed to wear tartan for about 30 years and most of the original clan patterns were lost. As an Englishman the repression of Highland/Scottish culture is not something I am proud of.

Tartan (and Scotland) became very popular with the British aristocracy during the reign of Queen Victoria (1837-1901) at which time a completely forged book of Scottish tartan patterns mysteriously appeared.Those patterns have become those accepted for the clan tartans to this day.

Cheers

Steve
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Thank you very much Steve for this explanation and the time that you has inverted in it!! Very nice!!!

Among all your comments and photos you all will turn me into a specialist of tartan!!

Cheers. Polux
 
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Actually the history of Tartan is far from certain & versions abound like the colours of a Spitfire of a certain age.

I obtained my kilts some 40 years ago & did quite a delve into the matter of tartan & clans being a Stewart.

Believed generally that tartan is actually a word used to describe the original cloth. From memory a wool & linen mixture. The wearer would lay on the end of the cloth then roll himself around and then stand & throw the end over the shoulder now know as a plaid.

Actually the wearing of kilts was not universally banned in Scotland. The idea was to curb the Highland Clans (the ordinary man) ie to stop Highland groups of Clans forming into armies. The wearing of Kilts among High Society, the Highland regiments (formed under English restriction) & also those in the lowland communities was allowed within the rules. All very strange. I would imagine that even though allowed if perhaps these groups did refrain from Kilting up. Could not find info at the time on that one. On this basis there must have been some crossover from old patterns to new. My understanding is that each tartan is registered. Sadly evidence is lost in the sands of time & there are now many interesting versions of events.

Laurie
 
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According to Fitzroy Maclean in 'Bonnie Prince Charlie' there were no real clan tartans and many would wear what they could get. There is however a bit of a controversy (for lack of a better word) regarding the origins of modern tartans. Regarding David Morier's 'Incident on Culloden' which was painted in 1746, he further states that the three main Highland warriors, were taken from the Tower to pose for Morier and there must be a reasonable chance that the tartan that are wearing is authentic of that time. I must admit this is from memory and I wont be reading the book again for some time so please dont shoot the messenger if I'm wrong especially as Pollux now has a nice tin of tartan paint to work from!

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