discussion Steve Jones Panther Ausf G Early Production Rye Field Model 1:35 (AAGB)

[BattleshipBob]

Lovely work Steve, you make PE look so easy!!

 

[Wouter]

Drunken modelling is never a good idea, you managed to pull it off though And this kit has some nice attention to detail. Love how that cupola and it's parts is constructed. Looking good there!

Cheers

 

[Guest]

Well my surprise for the barrel turned up today. Not happy with it at all. It was chicken wire for the barrel as I had seen it a couple of times in photos. Well it certainly wasnt wire. More like some sort of nylon. As we all know nylon is an absolute beatch to glue to anything

That seems like another example of someone trying to make easy money by packaging a common product for modellers, so they can ask a much higher price. Your netting looks suspiciously like tulle to me, which you can buy by the metre for next to nothing (a quick search for “tulle where to buy”, for example, shows me an ad from a web shop that sells it for €3.95 for a 30×900 cm roll …).

 

[Si Benson]

Morning Steve,

Seems the big cats are all coming together nicely on the GB:thumb2:

I know diddly squit about panthers, but it looks like you do. It’s a nicely detailed kit and you doing a Stirling job of it:smiling4:

 

[Mr Bowcat]

Looks good Steve. You're a brave man adding that PE sight now, I wonder how many times you will be re-gluing that back on. :tears-of-joy:

 

[BigGreg]

very accurate and detailed work... wonderful

 

[Neil Merryweather]

That seems like another example of someone trying to make easy money by packaging a common product for modellers, so they can ask a much higher price. Your netting looks suspiciously like tulle to me, which you can buy by the metre for next to nothing (a quick search for “tulle where to buy”, for example, shows me an ad from a web shop that sells it for €3.95 for a 30×900 cm roll …).

You're right Jakko, and if you specified cotton Tulle it would glue better than nylon.
You can also get diamond mesh as well as hexagonal, and in different sizes, and probably get a 10 cm sample from a haberdashery shop for very little money.
All you've got to do is find a haberdashery shop these days..............

 

[scottie3158]

Steve,
very nice work, the etch is looking good. I tend to use cheap gauze from the chemist for this sort of thing you can tease it open to whatever size holes you want and is easy to stick by soaking in watered down white glue.

 

[Guest]

The problem with gauze, though, is that it’s got square holes. It works very well for camouflage netting, but as Steve mentions, Panthers sometimes had chicken wire around the gun barrel, which is always hexagonal, and in 1:35 you can easily tell the shape of the holes in that kind of size.

 

[Steve Jones]

So the question is - Is there any PE or wire, chicken wire for 1 35 scale in the market place because I cant find any anywhere???

 

[scottie3158]

The problem with gauze, though, is that it’s got square holes. It works very well for camouflage netting, but as Steve mentions, Panthers sometimes had chicken wire around the gun barrel, which is always hexagonal, and in 1:35 you can easily tell the shape of the holes in that kind of size.

Ok mate no worries I miss understood.

 

[papa 695]

Some very nice work indeed Steve

 

[Guest]

Ok mate no worries I miss understood.

I wasn’t criticising you, just offering an explanation

So the question is - Is there any PE or wire, chicken wire for 1 35 scale in the market place because I cant find any anywhere???

I think I’d try tulle, which is what you already have, but like Neil says, find a cotton version rather than nylon. Or you can use the nylon one you have and use thread or thin copper wire to tie it to the barrel. I don’t recall offhand, but I would kind of expect the wire on the real tank to be tied down in a similar manner.

 

[stillp]

I would kind of expect the wire on the real tank to be tied down in a similar manner.

I'm sure you're right Jakko, they wouldn't glue it on! It wouldn't stay on long if it was just wrapped around the barrel.
Pete

 

[SimonT]

Hex mesh

 

[Steve Jones]

Hi Everyone

The pictures hide the reality Bob! :smiling5:
Certainly learnt my lesson Wouter - Lager after modelling not before:tongue-out:
I knew precious little before this build Si. Just spent a few weeks reading up on them. This is the part of the hobby I enjoy the most
Its locked away safe and sound Bob. Hopefully I wont have to touch it until the end of the build. Learnt the hard way too many times in the past:smiling:
Cheers Greg. Glad you like it
Neil/Scottie/Jakko/Pete/Mr T - Many thanks to you all for your input and help on the mesh. As I type, Postie has just delived me some Eduard hexagonal mesh. I will try and give some feedback later this week. The plastic stuff is on - just - but I am concerned about its longevity especially once painted. I will keep it on until I am happy that the PE is the better option. I never thought of looking for hex mesh just chicken wire. DOH! So I managed to find some on Evilbay as the US stuff would not have arrived until the end of the month
Many thanks Ian

 

[Steve Jones]

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[Jim R]

HI Steve

So much for this being an OOB build:smiling5::smiling:

Well I never believed it :tongue-out3:
Despite a few issues the detail is rather good and your work is neat and well planned as always.
Jim

 

[Si Benson]

Morning Comrade,

What a palaver with the MG ball mount wotsit! Glad you got it sorted eventually. Impressed with all that lovely detail round the hatches, would’ve look great all opened up.

keep it coming mate :thumb2: