discussion Tamiya Masking Stickers Vs Fluid

[topgazza]

Whilst I'm waiting for my starter kit Hurricane's varnish to dry I thought I would have a look at my Tamiya Spitfire 1/48.

First reaction was wow...the instructions are so comprehensive. At first glance a bit confusing until you sit down calmly and read them properly. But very different to the starter kit. However, I noticed there are some canopy masking stickers which to me is both thoughtful but fiddly. Or are they ?

Then I thought I would use masking fluid. I appreciate there are probably many different opinions here but what are the basic pros and cons ? I assume you apply the fluid, let it dry, paint frame and then peel off the masking fluid ? It would seem that on tiny shapes like this it may be a better way of stopping paint seeping onto the perspex ?

 

[Guest]

Interesting point Gary, I've a canopy to paint again due to overspill. If there had been a set of masks I'd have had a go. I have some Vallejo masking fluid, it's ok but it's getting the smallest strings off when the painting is done is problematic.
Hopeing some of the guys have an answer .

 

[Tim Marlow]

I find the masks light years better than masking fluid......fluid is harder to remove and difficult to apply.....it takes longer as well.....

 

[Jim R]

Hi Gary
I'm with Tim on this. Precut masks are far easier and give a better result than masking fluid.
Jim

 

[Dave Ward]

I'm in two minds about masking fluid & tape. I use masking fluid for windows, as tape is too fiddly for my fat fingers. Pre-cut masks for cockpit canopies - yes, I'd use them every time, if they came with the model, but being a tight old git, I won't buy any cockpit masks!
Fluid works well enough for hard edge curvy camouflage patterns, as does hand, or pre-cut masks. If large areas are involved, it's better to edge with tape, then fill in the middle with fluid. It's easier to apply fluid around compound curves.............
Tape can be very quick, you don't have to wait for anything to dry.
Each has it's own advantages, I would say use both, where appropriate! I'm afraid it is a matter of experimentation to see which works better for you
Dave

 

[Tim Marlow]

Good points Dave, I was only thinking of canopies.....

 

[topgazza]

What a great forum for advice. Thank you all. I’ve watched a couple of YouTube videos and it looks 50:50 as to fiddly scale. I like that Tamiya provide them so in this case I’ll give the pre cuts masks a try. Might use my daughter to cut them out though.

 

[Jim R]

Hi Gary
A lot of canopy masks are pre cut, especially after-market ones. They simply peel of the backing sheet, nice and easy. Some have to be cut out along the lines. I have never used that type but I imagine a new blade and a steady hand are essential. I would also think that you only need to cut through the mask and not the backing. Someone who has used the cut yourself type will give more advice.
Jim

 

[Mr Bowcat]

I used the pre supplied cut yourself masks on my Tamiya F-14 build. Although easy to cut and apply, I did find they started to lift after a while, I had to keep pressing them back down before spraying. I've not had this issue with pre-cut after market masks.

If I was using them again I would probably use the Tamiya masks as a template and make my own from Washi tape.

 

[topgazza]

I’ll give the supplied ones a try on this one. I am using brushes so I want to be careful

 

[topgazza]

OK.

I used one of the pre printed masks on the canopy I wasn't going to use, the open one on my Tamiya Spitfire. It worked fine and it took me around 5 minutes to achieve a neat finish on the canopy surround and one internal frame on the same piece using masking tape. What I am discovering is the concentration and really, really, careful pace is one of the main reasons I took this up again. It's teaching me a calm, focussed mentalty and not the crash bang wallop of my teen years. I'm loving it and getting a strange "buzz" out of it already

 

[Jim R]

Hi Gary

It's teaching me a calm, focussed mentalty

I know just where you are coming from. I retired from a stressful job with long hours. I can now sit at the bench with my music playing and the hours flow gently by.
Jim

 

[topgazza]

Same here. I'm surprised at how satisfying this is. Spending, what seems like ages, trimming , fitting and painting one tiny piece is, well, wonderful...so far :smiling:. I'm sure I'll have my flat moments like all hobbies but for now I'll take this.

 

[AlanG]

Canopy masks every time for me. Especially on anything that has a greenhouse like a He111. Painting fluid mask onto that would a be a total pain

 

[topgazza]

My next plane is going to be either a JU88 or the HE111 or even a Dornier DO17Z so clear plastic everywhere

 

[AlanG]

Gary. My next build is going to be a 1/48 He111 (voted for by forum members). I bought a set of masks for it as i've done a 1/72 He111 free-hand before and it was a nightmare.

 

[topgazza]

The horror of 1/72 free hand doesn't bear thinking about. Where did you get the masks from ? Is this the ICM model ?

 

[AlanG]

Gary. The kit is the older 1/48 Revell/Monogram He111 H22 kit. Even by todays standards, it's still a cracking kit. I also have the He111 H4/6 kit to make The masks are Eduard and i bought them from Hannants

 

[topgazza]

Thanks Alan. I keep forgetting about Hannants. I didn't know one makes masks would fit another makers models. I know logic says they would but I'll bear that in mind