discussion What defines "Pro-built"?

[Adrian "Marvel" Reynolds]

I'm seeing more and more built models on eBay with the words Pro-built, I wonder what other members think about this and do you sell models with this tag line?


For my monies worth a lot of the models I see saying Pro-built do not come up the high standards I see on here, is it a case that because some one may have sold built models in the past they now consider themselves professional?


I guess I'm just interested to see what your thoughts are


Adrian

 

[Guest]

Argh please don't start this

 

[Guest]

In my opinion, nobody is pro built unless they are Brett green or somebody like that. This is a learning experience for each model we build, and we get better each time we build one. I prefer to think we are all students learning

 

[stona]

What defines "Pro-built"?


Someone's opinion....often of themselves


I very much doubt that many of the people claiming 'pro-built' models are professional model builders. We can define 'professional' in this context as someone engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur.


That's not to say that I haven't seen plenty of terrific models built by people who are self professed amateurs


Cheers


Steve

 

[Alan 45]

For pro built means your contracted to build something, anyone who just builds to sell is the same as us no mater how good they are at doing it , to me their just hobbyists like rest of us


To be professional you must be in payed or contracted work in what ever field with professional training


I can class myself as a professional painter as I was trained and worked for companies and I ran my own listed company, anyone can paint and get just as good as a professional but they can't be classed in that field without the training

 

[Guest]

Yes I agree with Alan 45. Those people who built models for architects and museums, come into the professional model builders. We are just mere amateurs, well I am!

 

[colin m]

As said above. Professional normally implies some form of payment. So, sell a model to a mate for a quid Adrian, and you are a pro...............

 

[Guest]

Anything that's not built by me!

 

[PaulTRose]

i see those kits on ebay too.......to term them 'pro built' is laughable at times!


probuilt, in my book, means built to an order......someone asks you to build kit x for money z...a pro is someone who does that for a living

 

[eddiesolo]

Ebay has become the bane of model makers. Too many so called 'pro-built' stuff, that isn't. When I sell mine I put I am not a pro builder and to look at the pictures to make their own minds up.


I think that is why prices for models are low, too many folk stung by so called pro-built crap so are more careful when buying.


As said, a pro-built item is something made by a professional modeller, or artist or to order from said people. Some stuff I look at and they are wanting silly money for tat.

 

[eddiesolo]

Anything that's not built by me!

Heh heh...was thinking the same

 

[Alan 45]

Next time I see this on eBay I'm going ask if they make prostitutes

 

[yak face]

I too see these so called pro built models offered for sale and like everyone else i dont reckon much to them. I think the problem lies with the sellers , these people probably bought the kits somewhere else and dont realise that they are just built kits , no more than that. The other possibility is that the seller built them and thinks that by calling them pro built hes going to get more for them! To me a pro builder is a rare bird indeed , there are several like phil flory ,mig jimenez etc that do it for a living as do commision builders like our very own Mike ( chameleon 2009) , these can rightly call themselves pro builders ,- me? Im just an enthusiastic amateur ,even though ive sold plenty on e bay i would never say i was a pro , tony

 

[rickoshea52]

Its not just on ebay, I saw a stall at a model railway show selling "pro-weathered" loco's and rolling stock.....pffft! I wouldn't let it anywhere near my layout and stock. And the guy had the cheek to be asking silly money.


I had some of my stuff running on the club layout at the show and he asked who did the weathering, apparently someone had seen my stuff before his and made a negative comment about his and suggested he visit our layout to see some "proper" weathering!

 

[Guest]

Heh heh...was thinking the same

Actually I should confess that I've sold a few models on eBay & described them as ' pro built '...View attachment 116604


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[Guest]

Actually Bankers refer to themselves as Professional


A Professional is some one who provides a service for which they have trained and been approved


and meets the standard of a professional body for that discipline. Lawyers Solicitors Doctors Vets etc.


In British law they are protected disciplines in that you have to have met the standard of a professional


body before you can use any of the above descriptions.


So the loose use in general of the term Professional is to say you can trust me. So now I am back on Bankers


Laurie

 

[Guest]

To many people hung up on titles!


Ray

 

[takeslousyphotos]

banker


The term given to the girl you know you can get by the end of the evening. E.G. Its not a challenge, you are punching below your weight so its for sure.


You try all night to get a real nice girl, and if that fails, there is always the banker!!


"Hey Tom thats a banker over there!"


"For sure Mark, she's alright but i'm going for that real fitty"


"Oh well, if you dont get her, you can rely on the banker!!"


Definition of a Banker ????........ Or is this the definition of Sexism ????

 

[eddiesolo]

What do I think of financial establishment folk...I think their bankers

 

[Gern]

It's all advertising innit? Everything now has to be advertised as the ultimate, best, first class, gold star, A1, unbeatable quality or it don't sell.


I get a bit fed up of it to be honest as it even applies to job application forms. The company always asks for, and you have to advertise yourself as, first violinist - even if they only want someone to push wind through the trombone! Trouble with that of course is that you end up with an orchestra full of violinists and no-one able to play the trombone!


You always have to ignore the advertising hype and actually see what's on offer.


I don't care what the advert or builder says. It's a pro-build if, and only if, I think it is!