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    #76
    Hi thought I would do an update.
    Lots of things been happening here at Race Towers
    Large scale remodeling of the garden , this has taken up a lot of time and physical effort.Taking down a largish rose frame which after some years ha as finely rotten at the base .Most of it is now in the wood store for the winter .

    With some help from my good friend Allen ( Dude 1 ) I have been trying various methods of having the rockets firing and leaving the T60.
    So far so good,need to dry brush the " smoke "
    Thanks also to Tim for his advice on a suitable glue for the galvanized wire to the plastic.

    With out more ado .
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    Since then the length of the flames has been increased .This entailed adding more wire to the rear, and adding colour pigments to the two part glue and then brushing some red .
    Allen suggested the web for the smoke,works a treat and cheap as well.Probley have enough to add smoke to every kit I do, regardless of if it's needed or not .

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    Comments please as this is a new technic.
    Thanks for looking in .
    Dzhon .
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    • NickT
      • Apr 2019
      • 194

      #77
      Looking very good indeed John.

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      • Tim Marlow
        • Apr 2018
        • 18958
        • Tim
        • Somerset UK

        #78
        The separate elements look very good John. The flame and smoke effect is excellent. In use though I think there would be more smoke up by the projectile and down around the launch platform and vehicle. Great idea as well. I don’t think I’ve seen this done on a rocket firing platform before. I’ve seen it done with napoleonic cannon though, usually with a cannonball visible at the barrel of the gun…..much simpler than what you are achieving here.

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        • Jim R
          SMF Supporters
          • Apr 2018
          • 15817
          • Jim
          • Shropshire

          #79
          Hi John
          Fire and smoke. Right up your street. It does look good though. What is that web stuff? Would the smoke be greyish where it is thickest?
          Jim
          Hope your gardening is done. If the weather with you is like it is here today you'll be better off indoors. It has thrown it down all day :worried::tired:
          Jim

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          • Allen Dewire
            • Apr 2018
            • 4741
            • Allen
            • Bamberg

            #80
            Not trying to steal John's thunder, but it's still in the planning/working stages and the smoke is in it's infancy. He hasn't even started with the coloring or the pastels yet. The webbing is Halloween spider web decoration in a bag. Comes with black plastic spiders too. Cheap, as I bought a bag with 9 spiders and a lot of webbing for €1,50 in the €1 store. It's tightly packed, but you can pull it apart and tease it into pretty cool looking smoke. Some of you may remember this,

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            I used the webbing (without the spiders) and various pastels to do it. We know John will nail this puppy for sure.

            Sorry for the diversion Dude 2.............

            Prost
            Allen (Ret.)
            Life's to short to be a sheep...

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            • Steve Jones
              • Apr 2018
              • 6615

              #81
              Well done JR. A right result. Very impressive

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              • Jim R
                SMF Supporters
                • Apr 2018
                • 15817
                • Jim
                • Shropshire

                #82
                Thanks Allen
                Smoke and fire, really hard to model but you look to have found a very realistic method. It's a shame you didn't include a spider or two :smiling:
                Jim

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                • Allen Dewire
                  • Apr 2018
                  • 4741
                  • Allen
                  • Bamberg

                  #83
                  Uhhhh Jimbo...........Maybe you want to have one of those cannons taking a shot in your cut away model. I'm sure you could have some fun with it. Too bad the spiders are way out of scale though Sir.....................
                  Life's to short to be a sheep...

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                  • Guest

                    #84
                    Originally posted by NickT
                    Looking very good indeed John.
                    Thanks Nick appreciate you looking in.

                    Originally posted by Tim Marlow
                    The separate elements look very good John. The flame and smoke effect is excellent. In use though I think there would be more smoke up by the projectile and down around the launch platform and vehicle. Great idea as well. I don’t think I’ve seen this done on a rocket firing platform before. I’ve seen it done with napoleonic cannon though, usually with a cannonball visible at the barrel of the gun…..much simpler than what you are achieving here.
                    Thanks Tim, I'll try that , the "smoke " is very much in the test stage. Will take another look tomorrow and take some more photos.Once the "smoke " looks right around the rockets I'll dry brush .



                    Originally posted by Jim R
                    Hi John
                    Fire and smoke. Right up your street. It does look good though. What is that web stuff? Would the smoke be greyish where it is thickest?
                    Jim
                    Hope your gardening is done. If the weather with you is like it is here today you'll be better off indoors. It has thrown it down all day :worried::tired:
                    Jim

                    Hi Jim, not too bad this morning, just a few spots then it turned sunny , followed by cloud from the rear of the day. Still loads to do, finished digging out 2 buddleias that seem to takes ages .

                    I see Allen has kindly explained what the webbing is. Halloween sellers on Evilbay is where I got it , plus the spiders !

                    Yes right up my street , minus the real flame though.:smiling2::nerd:
                    Originally posted by Steve Jones
                    Well done JR. A right result. Very impressive

                    Thanks Steve, let's hope it turns out right.

                    Forgot to mention that the pewter track guards were not used. Just couldn't get a decent fixing so resulted to the kit ones. Glad now I hadn't ditched them . The tracks went on, not the easiest as they are so small, and I still needed one more link !
                    Track guard supports were made with some pe frame .

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                    • Guest

                      #85
                      I like how that looks a lot. With just the plain yellow as in the first photo, I wasn’t impressed, but after you added the other colours and the smoke, it looks really good. I think I would add some varnish to make the flames matt rather than gloss, though that’s about the only small issue I see with them. Nicely done

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                      • outrunner
                        • Apr 2019
                        • 2420

                        #86
                        Great job John, will make a change from your habit of actually burning stuff.

                        Andy.

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                        • Mini Me
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 10711

                          #87
                          WOT......no LED's???? Tsk tsk JR......does Matron know you are off your Meds again? Cheers........all looking good and a very successful launch Sir. Rick H. :thumb2:

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                          • Guest

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Jakko
                            I like how that looks a lot. With just the plain yellow as in the first photo, I wasn’t impressed, but after you added the other colours and the smoke, it looks really good. I think I would add some varnish to make the flames matt rather than gloss, though that’s about the only small issue I see with them. Nicely done :smiling3:
                            Thanks Jakko, yes they need to be matted , today is a test of the method of laying the smoke and pigment.

                            Originally posted by outrunner
                            Great job John, will make a change from your habit of actually burning stuff.

                            Andy.
                            Andy we can't not have some sort of fire now can we .:smiling3: Thanks .


                            Originally posted by Mini Me
                            WOT......no LED's???? Tsk tsk JR......does Matron know you are off your Meds again? Cheers........all looking good and a very successful launch Sir. Rick H. :thumb2:
                            Rick I was Matron who suggested, no ordered me not the have any LEDs for fear that I would have to up my meds yet again .:smiling3::smiling3:.

                            As mentioned to Jakko today is a test day for smoke , pigments . Having been in discussion with soon the be retired Allen Dewire of Bamburg an expert on such things a test section of thin timber will have some smoke affixed to it , just to check the bet method , ie varnish , hairspray , and then how much pigment to apply .
                            Think I have watched every filmed launch on U Tube , at least on the pc I can slow the speed right down and pause to get a better idea .

                            More later .

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                            • Neil Merryweather
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 5208
                              • London

                              #89
                              Looking like a real winner, John!

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                              • adt70hk
                                SMF Supporters
                                • Sep 2019
                                • 10444

                                #90
                                John,

                                That's coming on nicely.

                                Well done.

                                Andrew

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