discussion VMS Varnish.

[David Lovell]

We've all got our own bogeyman ,mine decals and varnish ,both developed to ruin all your hard work ,any way more and more of the weathering products ive been using really need the model to be sealed up to get the best from them and ease of use ,dont get me wrong ive got on fine without it finding my own way using these products. The problem or fear come to that was always you do all that work only to cover it with a splatter coat of varnish. Recently ive been using ammo's lucky varnish nothing good to say about it but nothing bad either. Then in a light bulb moment remembered I had a pot of the VMS satin varnish in the cupboard ,this i got from the SM Shop age's ago after watching a video on YouTube. Watching the vid for a second time on arrival of the varnish I thought no way (well not thoes words but you know) the fella absolutely lashes it on using a air brush no he lashes it on all the time assuring you it'll be alright on the night.
So current build had got to the varnish or not stage ,at this point the varnish was retrieved from the cupboard and the lable duly read ,no need to thin best results with a.4 needle ,now hold on .4 thats massive spray real things with that dont you. I'd taken delivery of a new airbrush in the week with a .3needle so a good excuse to give it a run out so with the memory of how he lashed it on threw caution to the wind . Oh I lashed I lashed for England all the time thinking all that work down the drain once on flipped a plastic takeaway container over the top as a dust cover cleaned out the AB and left the room.
Wow on return I was bowled over , I hope the pictures do this product justice




A perfect satin finish ,have no doubts its so easy to use you just lash it on straight out of the bottle ,well worth a blimp at the YouTube vid like I said not for the faint hearted ,wished I'd used it ages ago if the matt and gloss are as good then for those like me with a varnish fear no probs lash it on and carry on. Throughly recommended so easy to use. Dave.

 

[Tim Marlow]

Looks good Dave. Always nice to have another tool in the modelling paint box. I must admit, I still use Klear, which gives a great satin finish, but it seems to have fallen out of favour recently.

 

[David Lovell]

Looks good Dave. Always nice to have another tool in the modelling paint box. I must admit, I still use Klear, which gives a great satin finish, but it seems to have fallen out of favour recently.

There's a thing Tim forgot ive a bottle of the old floor polish in the cupboard as well ,can only repeat straight out of the bottle and lash it on no problems if I got on with no probs anybody can use it. Dave

 

[Jim R]

Hi Dave
I have used VMS varnish and find it very good. I do thin it slightly. I rather like VMS products in general, the ones I've tried anyway.
Jim

 

[Del640]

I watched that same video but found the varnish clogged up the airbrush quite quickly (using a 3.0 needle) tried a 4.0 needle, still blocked after a bit.

 

[David Lovell]

Hi Del strange I used a 3 needle never had a problem blew it through at about 15 to 18 straight out of the bottle. Some times tip drying,clogging is caused by the way the airbrush is used it should I think be air on paint in paint off air off otherwise it causes a build up on the needle no doubt some one will put me right. Sorry it didn't work for you interesting to hear if anybody else has used it. Dave

 

[Tim Marlow]

Hi Del strange I used a 3 needle never had a problem blew it through at about 15 to 18 straight out of the bottle. Some times tip drying,clogging is caused by the way the airbrush is used it should I think be air on paint in paint off air off otherwise it causes a build up on the needle no doubt some one will put me right. Sorry it didn't work for you interesting to hear if anybody else has used it. Dave

Spot on Dave. Air on, paint on, paint off, air off, is the correct sequence…..

 

[adt70hk]

Hi Dave

Was it a Night Shift video you watched? I know he loves it and the first time I saw him use it and he said it has go on thick, against everything I've been taught, I thought really???? And then he put it on....it was virtually swimming in it and yet dried beautifully.

ATB.

Andrew

 

[adt70hk]

Looks good Dave. Always nice to have another tool in the modelling paint box. I must admit, I still use Klear, which gives a great satin finish, but it seems to have fallen out of favour recently.

Actually, I started using it last year after years of hearing people use it when I came back to the hobby and have never regretted it....... And certainly a lot cheaper than propriety varnishes.

 

[Del640]

Hi Del strange I used a 3 needle never had a problem blew it through at about 15 to 18 straight out of the bottle. Some times tip drying,clogging is caused by the way the airbrush is used it should I think be air on paint in paint off air off otherwise it causes a build up on the needle no doubt some one will put me right. Sorry it didn't work for you interesting to hear if anybody else has used it. Dave

Air on paint paint off air off is how I've always used my airbrush, I have all the VMS varnishes as I use a lot of their other products, just couldn't get the varnish to flow freely. I'll give it another go.

 

[Guest]

The problem I found with some varnishes was even after the shaking and lately the vortex mixer they would have white lumps in and block up the ab. Thinning and thoroughly mixing did stop this ,recently started to use AK 3 gen and not had a problem.
I've used plenty of VMS products and found them worth the money , might now be tempted to try the varnish .

 

[David Lovell]

Hi Dave

Was it a Night Shift video you watched? I know he loves it and the first time I saw him use it and he said it has go on thick, against everything I've been taught, I thought really???? And then he put it on....it was virtually swimming in it and yet dried beautifully.

ATB.

Andrew

Andrew i dont think it was uncle nightshift im pretty sure it was by VMS but as mentioned its scary, honest people if you can find the YouTube vid and have the faith to do like wise I think the end result is outstanding ,its sertainly my go to varnish from now on.
Don't splash it all over lash it all over. Dave

 

[outrunner]

Probably this video.

Andy.

 

[adt70hk]

Don't splash it all over....

This made me laugh out loud....then I realised how old I have to be to understand the reference.... :tired:

 

[David Lovell]

Probably this video.

Andy.

Yep well done Andy not checked it out yet but looks the one ,to anyone watching this disscution well worth the blimp. Dave

 

[adt70hk]

I've just watched it and even though I knew what to expect, having seen Uncle Night Shift use it, I still can't get over how wet it goes on and yet out brilliantly it dries. The one thing I do wonder though is just how much varnish you're going to get through!!! :surprised:

Dave - thanks for bringing this to our attention, it is appreciated.

Andy- thanks for sharing the link, it saved me having to look for it!

ATB.

Andrew

 

[David Lovell]

I've just watched it and even though I knew what to expect, having seen Uncle Night Shift use it, I still can't get over how wet it goes on and yet out brilliantly it dries. The one thing I do wonder though is just how much finance you're going to get through!!! :surprised:

Dave - thanks for bringing this to our attention, it is appreciated.

Andy- thanks for sharing the link, it saved me having to look for it!

ATB.

Andrew

Andrew it does come in quite a big bottle and as far as I'm concerned its a trade off I'd rather lay out a few more pence per kit knowing the product works rather than cross fingers with a lesser product. As you know I dont build bigger scale stuff 35ers ,small porky I do if it takes my fancy every now and then but three or four small ones for the price of a bigger one plus spending more than fifteen to twenty pounds for some plastic makes me feel . I have found recently though that I dont mind paying a few more pence here and there for better quality modeling products to help protect my time and investment in what I'm building , there was a time when I'd have just gone thats knacked that then and shown it the bin but these times aren't getting any better or easier for many and I feel I can no longer justify being that cavalier, hope I havent wandered of that far but I'm sure you know what I'm prattling on about. Dave

 

[BattleshipBob]

I use a lot of VMS stuff. Impressed, very good videos and Chris the owner always replies to messages and is very helpful

 

[David Lovell]

Thanks to all for their input on this i dont really believe in bandying brand names about but was so impressed with this product I felt it worth bringing to your attention. Dave.
PS It's available from the sm shop.

 

[adt70hk]

Andrew it does come in quite a big bottle and as far as I'm concerned its a trade off I'd rather lay out a few more pence per kit knowing the product works rather than cross fingers with a lesser product. As you know I dont build bigger scale stuff 35ers ,small porky I do if it takes my fancy every now and then but three or four small ones for the price of a bigger one plus spending more than fifteen to twenty pounds for some plastic makes me feel . I have found recently though that I dont mind paying a few more pence here and there for better quality modeling products to help protect my time and investment in what I'm building , there was a time when I'd have just gone thats knacked that then and shown it the bin but these times aren't getting any better or easier for many and I feel I can no longer justify being that cavalier, hope I havent wandered of that far but I'm sure you know what I'm prattling on about. Dave

Actually Dave, I know what you mean.

Although I got quite a few kits and bits during lockdown, because I wasn't spending my money on anything else, a lot went on better quality tools and equipment or things that made the hobby easier.

Might look at getting VMS when my other varnishes have run out, like you I'm mainly 1/72.

Thanks again for sharing.

ATB.

Andrew