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Well, at the docs last week, nurse took blood to check sugar levels for the diabetes, weight checked, lost 10 kilos since last October-a bit concerned as they thought it could be down to my COPD, another check later on. Finally, the blood pressure, 161 over 89, a retake and it was around the same. Home tested for a week and it was still around 153 over 70 and that was at 8am. I am on blood pressure meds but it looks like more will be needed.

Oh, the joy of adding another pill to the box :smiling:
 
Well, at the docs last week, nurse took blood to check sugar levels for the diabetes, weight checked, lost 10 kilos since last October-a bit concerned as they thought it could be down to my COPD, another check later on. Finally, the blood pressure, 161 over 89, a retake and it was around the same. Home tested for a week and it was still around 153 over 70 and that was at 8am. I am on blood pressure meds but it looks like more will be needed.

Oh, the joy of adding another pill to the box :smiling:
I’m on those. Only one at the moment, but it’s backed up with blood thinners and statins…..I have bloods taken monthly as well…..at least the thinners make taking bloods easy, the trick is getting it to stop ;) not great is it :sleeping2:
 
Well, at the docs last week, nurse took blood to check sugar levels for the diabetes, weight checked, lost 10 kilos since last October-a bit concerned as they thought it could be down to my COPD, another check later on. Finally, the blood pressure, 161 over 89, a retake and it was around the same. Home tested for a week and it was still around 153 over 70 and that was at 8am. I am on blood pressure meds but it looks like more will be needed.

Oh, the joy of adding another pill to the box :smiling:
Good luck with getting it down, mine is winding up the staff at the local surgery, they keep saying mine is too high , but its the same as it was last year , so new tablets which haven't altered it at all.

147/97 is average and 3 different HBP pills.

can manage 181/123 on the odd occasion.
 
Hope you get it under control. I take a water pill prescribed by my doctor and I also eat lots of Beets and drink Beet juice. This and losing weight and a better life style really has helped.
 
This might sound strange but since my stroke last year i have lowered my BP not with the pills but with beetroot juice!!
i‘m not mad (honest) my sister bought me a book “how not to die” (Thats the title) and since i read some of it, (it a big read and no pictures) I‘v looked up the dr’s web page. NutritionFacts.org (it free) some of the facts are rather amazing.
have a look punch in you ailment and there will be a nutritional way to deal with it. It helped me loose weight and feel much better.

simon
 
Well, at the docs last week, nurse took blood to check sugar levels for the diabetes, weight checked, lost 10 kilos since last October-a bit concerned as they thought it could be down to my COPD, another check later on. Finally, the blood pressure, 161 over 89, a retake and it was around the same. Home tested for a week and it was still around 153 over 70 and that was at 8am. I am on blood pressure meds but it looks like more will be needed.

Oh, the joy of adding another pill to the box :smiling:
I know Si, I have now started to rattle when I walk, even got the woke police dancing the Macarana behind me. First it was the ones for the heart, then the one for the thyriod, then the fish capsule, then the antibiotics for the finger and now the pain killers for the back - anyone for a Samba cha cha cha.....
Mike.
 
Simon, I'll be interested to hear a bit more about your beetroot juice - like how much you need to take and how palatable it is. Currently trying to keep the docs happy without recourse to more pills..

Cheers, Nick.
 
Simon, I'll be interested to hear a bit more about your beetroot juice - like how much you need to take and how palatable it is. Currently trying to keep the docs happy without recourse to more pills..

Cheers, Nick.
Me too! My wife has suffered for years and I will suggest anything to her if it appears to work!! Although she says she does eat Beetroot!!!!
Oh and does drinking beetroot juice turn your urine red? Serious question. (I once had Borsch, (beetroot soup) and it did me!!!).
 
Beetroot is apparently an aphrodisiac, or so I'm told!
Pete
 
I know Si, I have now started to rattle when I walk, even got the woke police dancing the Macarana behind me. First it was the ones for the heart, then the one for the thyriod, then the fish capsule, then the antibiotics for the finger and now the pain killers for the back - anyone for a Samba cha cha cha.....
Mike.
Beetroot is apparently an aphrodisiac, or so I'm told!
Pete
Me too! My wife has suffered for years and I will suggest anything to her if it appears to work!! Although she says she does eat Beetroot!!!!
Oh and does drinking beetroot juice turn your urine red? Serious question. (I once had Borsch, (beetroot soup) and it did me!!!).
Ok its takes a bit of getting used to fresh beetroot juice is very earthy, bought beetroot juice is a lot sweeter daily i drink 1 glass or cup full of it. At lunchtime but after a short time you get used to the taste I should also point out it helps with movements!! ( i’m sure you know what i mean). And lastly after the first day or to it can catch you out if you check it looks like you have passed blood…

aphrodisiac not sure about that im 57 and still performing well!! (Not that i asked)

if you do look at the nutrional.org web site just type in blood pressure or beetroot juice the fasts are in the video’s
i personal started looking for something other than man made chemicals not convinced all the drugs they issue are for the best but thats just me + nobody ever saw a poor pharmaceutical company not sure they have my best interests at heart
simon
 
Me too! My wife has suffered for years and I will suggest anything to her if it appears to work!! Although she says she does eat Beetroot!!!!
Oh and does drinking beetroot juice turn your urine red? Serious question. (I once had Borsch, (beetroot soup) and it did me!!!).
Not noticed the pee turning red but movements yes..
 
i personal started looking for something other than man made chemicals not convinced all the drugs they issue are for the best but thats just me + nobody ever saw a poor pharmaceutical company not sure they have my best interests at heart
simon
Simon, you are passing on very poor information here.

From someone that spent almost my entire working life in the pharmaceutical world, I can tell you from personal experience that everything you get from that industry has been tested, checked, counter checked, and checked again before it is allowed out into the market place. Nothing they sell can be released to market unless it is approved by a qualified and very experienced individual who is legally responsible for the safety and efficacy of the product they have released. Everything they use as a manufacturing substrate is supplied from a known and trusted source, and is legally listed in the production license application. All operations carried out during manufacture are logged, and all production parameter data is recorded and kept for ten years past the shelf life of the product. Every anomaly that occurs during manufacture, no matter how trivial it may seem, is investigated and the potential impact on product safety assessed and recorded. Key ingredients must come from a regulatory approved source, and cannot be substituted with an alternative (even from another approved source) unless the alternative has been tested to the same rigorous standards and the change is agreed up front by the industry regulators.

In comparison, alternative therapies and diets use ideas and suppositions that are passed on by word of mouth, use untested ingredients, sometimes from extremely dubious sources, and have no basis in scientific methodology. They may be dressed up as pseudoscience for marketing purposes, and to “sell” the latest antivaxer diatribe, but they do not undergo peer review and are not subject to regulatory review. Personally I would not subject myself to such a regime unless I had checked with my GP that it would do no harm. I certainly wouldn’t expect it to do much good, unless it was more by luck than judgement.
 
High blood pressure you say?! You need less time modelling, clearly the 2 aren't going together at the mo! :smiling5:
Joking aside, I hope you getting it back on track mate :thumb2:
 
Simon, you are passing on very poor information here.

From someone that spent almost my entire working life in the pharmaceutical world, I can tell you from personal experience that everything you get from that industry has been tested, checked, counter checked, and checked again before it is allowed out into the market place. Nothing they sell can be released to market unless it is approved by a qualified and very experienced individual who is legally responsible for the safety and efficacy of the product they have released. Everything they use as a manufacturing substrate is supplied from a known and trusted source, and is legally listed in the production license application. All operations carried out during manufacture are logged, and all production parameter data is recorded and kept for ten years past the shelf life of the product. Every anomaly that occurs during manufacture, no matter how trivial it may seem, is investigated and the potential impact on product safety assessed and recorded. Key ingredients must come from a regulatory approved source, and cannot be substituted with an alternative (even from another approved source) unless the alternative has been tested to the same rigorous standards and the change is agreed up front by the industry regulators.

In comparison, alternative therapies and diets use ideas and suppositions that are passed on by word of mouth, use untested ingredients, sometimes from extremely dubious sources, and have no basis in scientific methodology. They may be dressed up as pseudoscience for marketing purposes, and to “sell” the latest antivaxer diatribe, but they do not undergo peer review and are not subject to regulatory review. Personally I would not subject myself to such a regime unless I had checked with my GP that it would do no harm. I certainly wouldn’t expect it to do much good, unless it was more by luck than judgement.
Simon, you are passing on very poor information here.

From someone that spent almost my entire working life in the pharmaceutical world, I can tell you from personal experience that everything you get from that industry has been tested, checked, counter checked, and checked again before it is allowed out into the market place. Nothing they sell can be released to market unless it is approved by a qualified and very experienced individual who is legally responsible for the safety and efficacy of the product they have released. Everything they use as a manufacturing substrate is supplied from a known and trusted source, and is legally listed in the production license application. All operations carried out during manufacture are logged, and all production parameter data is recorded and kept for ten years past the shelf life of the product. Every anomaly that occurs during manufacture, no matter how trivial it may seem, is investigated and the potential impact on product safety assessed and recorded. Key ingredients must come from a regulatory approved source, and cannot be substituted with an alternative (even from another approved source) unless the alternative has been tested to the same rigorous standards and the change is agreed up front by the industry regulators.

In comparison, alternative therapies and diets use ideas and suppositions that are passed on by word of mouth, use untested ingredients, sometimes from extremely dubious sources, and have no basis in scientific methodology. They may be dressed up as pseudoscience for marketing purposes, and to “sell” the latest antivaxer diatribe, but they do not undergo peer review and are not subject to regulatory review. Personally I would not subject myself to such a regime unless I had checked with my GP that it would do no harm. I certainly wouldn’t expect it to do much good, unless it was more by luck than judgement.
sorry Tim just sharing a personal experience, there are no other substitute pills or remedies involved just fruit veg and spices.
the information is on the web site backed up by the facts and figures.
simon
 
I’ve had a good look at the site Simon, and to say I’m underwhelmed is an understatement. There are very obvious fallacies promoted on his discussion pages that he allows to go unchecked because they support his anti interventionist narrative. A common theme from forum members is that “all drugs” alter your DNA. This is absolutely untrue (except in extremely specific cases) and is usually pushed by those with no understand of what DNA is, what it does, and how it works. To allow these views through unchecked completely undermines any medical credibility he pertains to have.

I really am not trying to have a go at you here Simon. I’m just extremely concerned that the side effects of some of these ideas can potentially mask extremely serious illnesses. Perpetually producing red stools could mask the early signs of colorectal cancer, for example.

You are in the world of the utterly unregulated “dietary health” industry here, so for your own good please treat any unregulated information you get from the internet and associated books with a very healthy dose of scepticism. Try these things by all means, but not to the exclusion of support and advice given by educated and experienced medical professionals.
 
My 2 penneth. I think, therefor my opinion. People seek alternatives because if anything like my area, trying to see a proper medical professional regards these issues is nigh on impossible or the hoops you have to jump through make folk give up trying. So what is the alternative? Witch doctors, internet???
The science is fine if you can meet someone professionally qualified, 1 to be interested in your case and 2 Available!!!
 
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